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Minutes of Proceedings

42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting No. 102
Tuesday, September 19, 2017, 3:31 p.m. to 5:34 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
Hon. Wayne Easter, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Naaman Sugrue, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Brett Capstick, Analyst
Pursuant to Standing Order 106(2), the Clerk of the Committee presided over the election of a Vice-Chair.

On motion of Dan Albas, it was agreed, — That Hon. Pierre Poilievre be elected First Vice-Chair of the Committee.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

Motion

By unanimous consent, Greg Fergus moved, — That during the week of September 25 to 29, 2017,

the Committee hold two (2) meetings to hear from witnesses on the tax fairness measures proposed by the Minister of Finance on July 18, 2017;

the Committee invite the Honourable Bill Morneau, Minister of Finance, to appear during a third meeting on the study; and

that the lists of proposed witnesses be submitted to the Clerk no later than Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 4 p.m.

It was agreed, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “July 18, 2017” the following: “and that these meetings last three (3) hours, with 6 witnesses for each 1.5 hour panel;”.

Amendment

Dan Albas moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “4 p.m.” the following: “and that the list of proposed witnesses be split into 50% government party witnesses and 50% witnesses from the opposition parties”.

The question was put on the amendment of Dan Albas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Dan Albas, Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre — 4;

NAYS: Greg Fergus, Raj Grewal, Michael V. McLeod, Jennifer O'Connell, Francesco Sorbara — 5.

It was agreed, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “on the study” the following: “and that the testimony from the Minister of Finance be excluded from the testimony from the other witnesses, which will be sent to the Minister's attention as part of the Department of Finance's consultations;”.

It was agreed, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “Department of Finance's consultations” the following: “that the Committee accept written submissions on the public website until Friday, September 29, 2017 at midnight Eastern Standard Time and that these submissions be sent to the Minister of Finance in the language they are received, as part of the Department of Finance’s consultations.”.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Greg Fergus, Raj Grewal, Michael V. McLeod, Jennifer O'Connell, Francesco Sorbara — 6;

NAYS: Dan Albas, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre — 3.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That during the week of September 25 to 29, 2017,

the Committee hold two (2) meetings to hear from witnesses on the tax fairness measures proposed by the Minister of Finance on July 18, 2017 and that these meetings last three (3) hours, with 6 witnesses for each 1.5 hour panel;

the Committee invite the Honourable Bill Morneau, Minister of Finance, to appear during a third meeting on the study;

that the lists of proposed witnesses be submitted to the Clerk no later than Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 4 p.m. and that the testimony from the Minister of Finance be excluded from the testimony from the other witnesses, which will be sent to the Minister's attention as part of the Department of Finance's consultations;

that the Committee accept written submission on its public website until Friday, September 29, 2017 at midnight EST and that these submissions be sent to the Minister of Finance in the language they are received, as part of the Department of Finance’s consultations.

Department of Employment and Social Development
• Andrew Brown, Acting Director General, Employment Insurance Policy, Skills and Employment Branch
• Catherine Demers, Director General, Strategy and Partnerships, Skills and Employment Branch
• Rachel Wernick, Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Skills and Employment
Department of Industry
• Krista Campbell, Director General, Digital Transformation Sector
• Lisa Setlakwe, Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategy and Innovation Policy Sector
Department of Finance
• Phil King, Director, Economic Analysis and Forecasting
• Claude Lavoie, Director, Economic Studies and Policy Analysis Division, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch
• Nicholas Leswick, Assistant Deputy Minister, Economic and Fiscal Policy Branch
• William MacMinn, Senior Economist, Federal-Provincial Relations and Social Policy Branch
• Glenn Purves, General Director, Federal-Provincial Relations and Social Policy Branch
Pursuant to Standing Order 83.1, the Committee commenced its pre-budget consultations in advance of the 2018 budget.

Nicholas Leswick made a statement.

Lisa Setlakwe made a statement and, with Nicholas Leswick, Claude Lavoie and Krista Campbell, answered questions.

At 4:50 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:55 p.m. the sitting resumed.

Rachel Wernick made a statement and, with Catherine Demers and Glenn Purves, answered questions.

At 4:58 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:01 p.m., the sitting resumed.

At 5:34 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Suzie Cadieux
Clerk of the Committee