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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 134

Wednesday, November 30, 1994

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-0904, 351-1075 and 351-1252 concerning renewable alternative energy sources. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-45F.


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-0973 concerning Old Age Security benefits. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-31B.


Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-1292 concerning the Leader of the Opposition. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-54C.

Statements by Ministers

Pursuant to Standing Order 33(1), Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) made a statement.

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled ``The Government's Action Plan on Firearms Control''. -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-351-18.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Ms. Torsney (Burlington), pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), presented the Report of the 5th Annual Meeting of the Canada-Japan Inter-Parliamentary Group, held in Vancouver, British Columbia, from October 15 to 18, 1994. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-351-57A.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Bélisle (La Prairie), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 6th Report of the Committee (Program Evaluation). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-64.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 11, 13, 17, 21 and 22, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Cummins (Delta), one concerning gun control (No. 351-1450);

-- by Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1451);

-- by Mr. Duhamel (St. Boniface), one concerning the tax system (No. 351-1452);

-- by Mr. Culbert (Carleton -- Charlotte), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1453), one concerning abortion (No. 351-1454) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1455);

-- by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1456);

-- by Mr. White (Fraser Valley West), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-1457) and two concerning abortion (Nos. 351-1458 and 351-1459).

-- by Ms. Torsney (Burlington), one concerning material depicting violence (No. 351-1460);

-- by Mr. Frazer (Saanich -- Gulf Islands), one concerning gun control (No. 351-1461);

-- by Mr. Hart (Okanagan -- Similkameen -- Merritt), one concerning gun control (No. 351-1462);

-- by Mr. Chatters (Athabasca), one concerning the official languages of Canada (No. 351-1463).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs)), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)), -- That this House take note of the opinions expressed by Canadians on the budgetary policy of the government and, notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 83.1, authorize the Standing Committee on Finance to make a report or reports thereon no later than December 7, 1994. (Government Business No. 17)

The debate continued.

At 6:07 p.m., pursuant to Order made Thursday, November 24, 1994, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.


By unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. MacLaren (Minister for International Trade), seconded by Mr. Chan (Secretary of State (Asia-Pacific)), -- That Bill C-57, An Act to implement the Agreement Establishing the World Trade Organization, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 121)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélisle -- Campbell -- Canuel -- Caron -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- English -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gallaway -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Ménard -- Nunez -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Paré -- Payne -- Penson -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Rompkey -- Schmidt -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speller -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 185

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Blaikie -- de Jong -- Robinson -- Solomon -- Taylor -- 7

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Augustine -- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Collins -- Crête -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Lee -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Nault -- Patry -- Picard (Drummond) -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Sheridan -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs)), seconded by Mr. Gerrard (Secretary of State (Science, Research and Development)). (Government Business No. 17)

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 122)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Chatters -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Cowling -- Culbert -- Cummins -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Dupuy -- Eggleton -- English -- Finestone -- Flis -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jennings -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacLaren (Etobicoke North) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchi -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Payne -- Penson -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringma -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Rompkey -- Schmidt -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 143

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Jong -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Jacob -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Mercier -- Ménard -- Nunez -- Paré -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Robinson -- Solomon -- St-Laurent -- Taylor -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 49

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Augustine -- Bachand -- Bevilacqua -- Bouchard -- Caccia -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Collins -- Crête -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Lee -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Nault -- Patry -- Picard (Drummond) -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Sheridan -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata)

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:39 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Harvard (Winnipeg St. James), seconded by Mr. Shepherd (Durham), moved, -- That this House support the principle of disclosing the salary ranges of all senior executives of Crown corporations and publicly-traded companies incorporated under federal charter. (Private Members' Business M-309)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the time provided for consideration of Private Members' Business expired and the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A Message was received from the Senate as follows:

    ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed C-48, An Act to establish the Department of Natural Resources and to amend related Acts, without amendment.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:38 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following papers, deposited with the Clerk of the House, were laid upon the Table:

By Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development) -- Report on Government Annuities, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1994, pursuant to subsection 18(1) of the Government Annuities Improvement Act, Chapter 83, Statutes of Canada, 1974-75-76. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-57A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

By Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development) -- Report on the Administration of the Canada Assistance Plan for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1993, pursuant to section 18 of the Canada Assistance Plan, Chapter C-1, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-77. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Alcock (Winnipeg South), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-1464), one concerning abortion (No. 351-1465) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-1466).

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:50 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).