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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 37
Wednesday, November 16, 2022, 4:36 p.m. to 6:41 p.m.
Ali Ehsassi, Chair (Liberal)

• Ziad Aboultaif for Hon. Michael D. Chong (Conservative)
• Blaine Calkins for Hon. Michael D. Chong (Conservative)
• Bob Zimmer for Garnett Genuis (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Allison Goody, Analyst
• Billy Joe Siekierski, Analyst
• Hon. Salma Ataullahjan, Senator
• Garnett Genuis, M.P., Sherwood Park—Fort Saskatchewan
As an individual
• Miriam Cohen, Associate Professor, Faculty of Law, Université de Montréal
• Lindsey McKay, Assistant Teaching Professor, Faculty of Arts, Thompson Rivers University
Canadian Society of Transplantation
• Dr. Jagbir Gill, Vice-President
Pursuant to the order of reference of Wednesday, May 18, 2022, the committee commenced consideration of Bill S-223, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (trafficking in human organs).

Salma Ataullahjan and Garnett Genuis made statements and answered questions.


Randy Hoback moved, — That the debate be resumed on the motion of Garnett Genuis moved on Monday, November 14, 2022, and that a vote on the motion take place by the end of this meeting.

A point of order was raised as to the procedural acceptability of the proposed motion.


The Chair ruled the motion out of order on the grounds that it was a substantive motion that did not address the current study and that the necessary notice had not been given.


Randy Hoback moved, — That the committee proceed to consideration of the motion of Garnett Genuis moved on Monday, November 14, 2022.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Stéphane Bergeron, Dave Epp, Randy Hoback, Bob Zimmer — 5;

NAYS: Charlie Angus, Rachel Bendayan, Hedy Fry, Robert Oliphant, Randeep Sarai, Sameer Zuberi — 6.

At 5:40 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:46 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Miriam Cohen, Lindsey McKay and Jagbir Gill made statements and answered questions.

Garnett Genuis gave notice of the following motion:

That the Chair be instructed to schedule an in public committee business meeting on Wednesday, November 23, 2022, and that the first order of business during that meeting be the resumption of debate on the motion of Garnett Genuis moved on Monday, November 14, 2022.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 6:41 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Ariane Gagné-Frégeau
Clerk of the committee