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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 54
Friday, November 18, 2022, 1:03 p.m. to 3:06 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Hon. Hedy Fry, Chair (Liberal)

• Jeremy Patzer for Martin Shields (Conservative)
• Fraser Tolmie for Marilyn Gladu (Conservative)
House of Commons
• Philippe Méla, Legislative Clerk
• Jean-François Pagé, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Gabrielle de Billy Brown, Analyst
• Marion Ménard, Analyst
The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Kevin Waugh moved, — That former Supreme Court Justice, the Honorable Thomas Cromwell, be invited to appear before the committee pursuant to its study on safe sport in Canada, regarding his final independent governance review of Hockey Canada; and that the committee hear from Justice Cromwell prior to Hockey Canada’s announcement of its new board and chief executive officer (CEO).

Debate arose thereon.

Motion

Chris Bittle moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

By unanimous consent, the motion was withdrawn.

It was agreed, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “chief executive officer (CEO)” the following: “on Saturday, December 17, 2022”.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis, Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie, Kevin Waugh — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That former Supreme Court Justice, the Honorable Thomas Cromwell, be invited to appear before the committee pursuant to its study on safe sport in Canada, regarding his final independent governance review of Hockey Canada; and that the committee hear from Justice Cromwell prior to Hockey Canada’s announcement of its new board and chief executive officer (CEO) on Saturday, December 17, 2022.

Department of Canadian Heritage
• Thomas Owen Ripley, Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Cultural Affairs
• Michel Sabbagh, Director General, Broadcasting, Copyright, and Creative Marketplace Branch
• Joelle Paré, Acting Director, Marketplace and Legislative Policy
• Frederick Matern, Manager, Marketplace and Legislative Policy
Pursuant to the order of reference of Tuesday, May 31, 2022, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-18, An Act respecting online communications platforms that make news content available to persons in Canada.

Thomas Owen Ripley answered questions.

The committee commenced its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

Pursuant to Standing Order 75(1), consideration of Clause 1 (short title) was postponed.

The Chair called Clause 2.

On Clause 2,

Rachael Thomas moved, — That Bill C-18, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 17 and 18 on page 1 with the following:

“dia service, that makes news content produced by”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachael Thomas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Martin Shields, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie, Kevin Waugh — 4;

NAYS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis — 7.

Peter Julian moved, — That Bill C-18, in Clause 2, be amended

(a) by adding after line 6 on page 2 the following:

Indigenous news outlet means an undertaking or any distinct part of an undertaking, such as a section of a newspaper, whose primary purpose is to produce news content and that

(a) is operated by an individual who belongs to an Indigenous group, community or people; and

(b) produces news content primarily for Indigenous peoples. (média d'information autochtone)”

(b) by adding after line 6 on page 2 the following:

Indigenous peoples has the meaning assigned by the definition aboriginal peoples of Canada in subsection 35(2) of the Constitution Act, 1982. (peuples autochtones)”

(c) by replacing line 18 on page 2 with the following:

“primary purpose of which is to produce news content and includes an Indigenous news outlet.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Peter Julian and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chris Bittle, Martin Champoux, Michael Coteau, Lisa Hepfner, Anthony Housefather, Peter Julian, Tim Louis, Jeremy Patzer, Rachael Thomas, Fraser Tolmie, Kevin Waugh — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Rachael Thomas moved, — That Bill C-18, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing line 11 on page 2 with the following:

“ates a news outlet in Canada. (entreprise de nouvelles)”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachael Thomas and it was agreed to.

Rachael Thomas moved, — That Bill C-18, in Clause 2, be amended

(a) by replacing line 13 on page 2 with the following:

“ing an audio or audiovisual format — that is protected by copyright and that reports on, in-”

(b) by replacing line 15 on page 2 with the following:

“interest. It does not include a hyperlink that provides access to online news content and is presented without images or extracts of alphanumeric text that are part of the online news content. (contenu de nouvelles)”

Debate arose thereon.

At 3:06 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Aimée Belmore
Clerk of the committee