ETHI Committee Meeting
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Minutes of Proceedings
The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Michael Barrett moved on Thursday, October 8, 2020 which read as follows:
That, pursuant to Standing Orders 108(1)(a), an order of the committee do issue to Speakers' Spotlight for a copy of all records pertaining to speaking appearances arranged, since October 14, 2008, for Justin Trudeau, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, Margaret Trudeau and Alexandre Trudeau — including, in respect of each speaking appearance, an indication of the fee provided, any expenses that were reimbursed and the name of the company, organization, person or entity booking it — which had been originally ordered to be produced on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, by the committee, provided that these documents shall be provided to the clerk within 24 hours of the adoption of this motion; and that the documents be reviewed in camera.
The Committee resumed consideration of the amendment of Charlie Angus, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words, “Margaret Trudeau and Alexandre Trudeau”.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Charlie Angus and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Charlie Angus, Han Dong, Greg Fergus, Marie-Hélène Gaudreau, Patricia Lattanzio, Brenda Shanahan, Francesco Sorbara — 7;
NAYS: Michael Barrett, Jacques Gourde, Chris Warkentin — 3.
The committee resumed consideration of the motion as amended moved by Michael Barrett which read as follows:
That, pursuant to Standing Orders 108(1)(a), an order of the committee do issue to Speakers' Spotlight for a copy of all records pertaining to speaking appearances arranged, since October 14, 2008, for Justin Trudeau, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau — including, in respect of each speaking appearance, an indication of the fee provided, any expenses that were reimbursed and the name of the company, organization, person or entity booking it — which had been originally ordered to be produced on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, by the committee, provided that these documents shall be provided to the clerk within 24 hours of the adoption of this motion; and that the documents be reviewed in camera.
Debate arose thereon.
Greg Fergus moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “within 24 hours of” with the words “up to seven calendar days after”.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Greg Fergus and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Han Dong, Greg Fergus, Marie-Hélène Gaudreau, Patricia Lattanzio, Brenda Shanahan, Francesco Sorbara — 6;
NAYS: Charlie Angus, Michael Barrett, Jacques Gourde, Chris Warkentin — 4.
The committee resumed consideration of the motion of Michael Barrett, as amended, which read as follows:
That, pursuant to Standing Orders 108(1)(a), an order of the committee do issue to Speakers' Spotlight for a copy of all records pertaining to speaking appearances arranged, since October 14, 2008, for Justin Trudeau, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau — including, in respect of each speaking appearance, an indication of the fee provided, any expenses that were reimbursed and the name of the company, organization, person or entity booking it — which had been originally ordered to be produced on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, by the committee, provided that these documents shall be provided to the clerk up to seven calendar days after the adoption of this motion; and that the documents be reviewed in camera.
Debate arose thereon.
Brenda Shanahan moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “reviewed in camera” the following:
“and that the documents not be emailed to Members, staff or anyone else;
that for the consideration of the documents during in-camera meetings, numbered, paper copies be provided to committee members by the clerk at the start of any meeting at which they will be considered;
that they be returned to the clerk at the end of the meeting;
that no staff and no mobile or electronic devices be allowed for the duration of the in camera meeting;
that the documents be held in the clerk’s office; and
that outside of in-camera committee meetings, members may only view the documents in the clerk’s office and that no mobile or electronic devices may be in the room when the documents are being reviewed”.
At 12:26 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 12:42 p.m., the sitting resumed.
After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Brenda Shanahan and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Charlie Angus, Han Dong, Greg Fergus, Patricia Lattanzio, Brenda Shanahan, Francesco Sorbara, Julie Vignola — 7;
NAYS: Michael Barrett, Jacques Gourde, Chris Warkentin — 3.
The Committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended, of Michael Barrett, — The committee resumed consideration of the motion, as amended, moved by Michael Barrett which read as follows:
That, pursuant to Standing Orders 108(1)(a), an order of the committee do issue to Speakers' Spotlight for a copy of all records pertaining to speaking appearances arranged, since October 14, 2008, for Justin Trudeau, Sophie Grégoire Trudeau — including, in respect of each speaking appearance, an indication of the fee provided, any expenses that were reimbursed and the name of the company, organization, person or entity booking it — which had been originally ordered to be produced on Wednesday, July 22, 2020, by the committee, provided that these documents shall be provided to the clerk up to seven calendar days after the adoption of this motion; and that the documents be reviewed in camera.
and that the documents not be emailed to Members, staff or anyone else;
that for the consideration of the documents during in camera meetings, numbered, paper copies be provided to committee members by the clerk at the start of any meeting at which they will be considered, and
that they be returned to the clerk at the end of the meeting;
that no staff and no mobile or electronic devices be allowed for the duration of the in camera meeting;
that the documents be held in the clerk’s office, and
that outside of in camera committee meetings, members may only view the documents in the clerk’s office, and
that no mobile or electronic devices may be in the room when the documents are being reviewed.
After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Charlie Angus, Michael Barrett, Jacques Gourde, Chris Warkentin — 4;
NAYS: Han Dong, Patricia Lattanzio, Brenda Shanahan, Francesco Sorbara, Julie Vignola — 5.
At 1:07 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.