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Standing Committee on Indigenous and Northern Affairs



Thursday, October 5, 2017

[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]



    We're going to be looking at Bill C-17, an act to amend the Yukon Environmental and Socio-economic Assessment Act and to make a consequential amendment to another act, pursuant to the order of reference of Tuesday, June 20, 2017.
    We have in front of us department officials who are here as experts if members have any questions, but they will not be presenting.
    Before we begin, I wish to recognize that we're on the unceded territory of the Algonquin people, and we're in the beginning process of truth and reconciliation.
    We have had a number of hearings. There is a lot of anticipation that we move the bill quickly, so let's get down to business.
    I'm going to begin with clause 1. Shall clause 1 carry?
    (Clause 1 agreed to on division)
    The Chair: Shall clause 2 carry?
    I don't have a hard copy of the legislation.
    We'll recess for five minutes.



    We're back in order.
    We're going to go through clause-by-clause of Bill C-17. We have nine clauses. This bill has been reviewed and investigated. We've heard witnesses, and now we're ready to go through the bill.
    We've done clause 1, on division.
    We are on clause 2.
    (On clause 2)
    Madam Chair, I have a question for the officials.
    I know from the witnesses there was a commitment by the government to insert language that puts some sort of definition around this. That conversation has not happened yet with YESAB and the involved parties, is that accurate, to have replacement language?
     What's been put in place, to this point, is a process through an MOU that would be tripartite, including YTG and the collective of Yukon first nations. If signed, that would see the establishment of oversight committees, which would be the place through which discussions around such issues as reassessments would be addressed.
    So, nothing concrete has been done. Is it accurate that we will be leaving a void in that area, until those discussions happen?
     The sequence is such that the amendments in question would be repealed. It is unlikely in our view that the first nations in particular would be interested and willing to sit down and entertain discussions until action has been taken on the bill. The expectation, however, is that this would be among the primary issues that would be subject to discussion by the oversight committee, which would then provide advice and guidance to the board as to how to manage, through policy, issues like the interpretation of assessments, and changes.
    By voting for this clause, we would be leaving a void.
    Thank you.
    Are there any other questions for the specialists from the department?
    Shall clause 2 carry?
    I request a recorded vote, please.
    (Clause 2 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
    (On clause 3)
    The Chair: Shall clause 3 carry?
    MP McLeod.
    Madam Chair, I understand there was a commitment, but this would appear to leave a void that will need further conversation. Is that accurate?
    What's accurate is that there will be further conversation through the body and forum that I identified.
    Thank you.
    Okay, is this on division or a recorded vote?
    A recorded vote.
    (Clause 3 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
    (Clauses 4 to 9 agreed to on division sequentially) [See Minutes of Proceedings])


     Shall the title carry?
    On division.
     Shall the bill carry?
    A recorded vote, please.
    (Bill C-17 agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])
     Shall the chair report the bill to the House?
    Some hon. members: Agreed.
    The Chair: That's it for Bill C-17.
    I want to thank everyone who participated, especially the specialists.
     The committee will take a short break, and then we'll go in camera to deal with House business.
    [Proceedings continue in camera]
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