Good morning, everyone.
[Translation]
Thank you for inviting me here today.
I am pleased to be here before you today, along with my colleague C/Supt. Derek Ogden, who is the Director General, Drugs & Organized Crime and directly responsible for, among other things, the Witness Protection Program. Derek reports directly to me.
[English]
With me also is Mr. David Bird, of RCMP legal services, and Mr. Bill Bartlett, who is with the Department of Justice's criminal law policy section.
My title is assistant commissioner, federal and international operations, and in this capacity I'm responsible for drugs and organized crime, border integrity, financial crime, and international operations. I am also the officer to whom the Commissioner of the RCMP has delegated the authority to admit or terminate individuals from the witness protection program.
[Translation]
If I may, I'd like to start by setting out for you some general principles relative to the Witness Protection Program.
[English]
The witness protection program is an extremely important tool for law enforcement and for the judicial system. It is used primarily in the most serious criminal investigations and is recognized in many countries around the world as an essential component of an effective justice system.
The witness protection program in Canada has afforded witnesses the confidence to provide testimony in a variety of very serious criminal offences. While information provided to police by informants is afforded a certain degree of protection by the courts, information from persons acting on behalf of the police, referred to as agents, is not protected and is revealed in its entirety to the accused party.
There is a very important distinction between informants and agents, which I'll be more than happy to discuss or explain, if you so wish, at some point during my testimony.
Because of their willingness to testify against the accused, these witnesses end up facing the real threat of revenge against them and their families. When this real threat of harm exists, persons will in many cases only consider assisting law enforcement if they have complete confidence in the ability of the police to protect them. They must be assured that they will be able to provide testimony without fear of harm, and they must have confidence that the witness protection program will protect their new identity and their new location.
Loss of confidence in the witness protection program could have a very detrimental ripple effect. Witnesses would be reluctant to come forward, and police agents would refuse to provide assistance in our country's most complex organized crime and/or national security investigations.
[Translation]
The Witness Protection Program Act came into effect on June 20, 1996. Although the Act states that the Commissioner of the RCMP is responsible for the administration of the Program, as I indicated at the outset of my comments, the Commissioner has delegated the responsibility of admissions and terminations to me.
[English]
Under the act, protection measures may include relocation, change of identity, and counselling and/or financial support to ensure witnesses’ security or to facilitate witnesses’ re-establishment or ability to become self-sufficient. It is common practice to provide all protectees who enter the witness protection program access to a psychologist to assist them in adjusting to their new life. Witnesses entering the witness protection program are deemed to be in the program for life. They are encouraged to become self-sufficient and to integrate themselves into society as soon as possible.
Entry into the witness protection program is guided by some very clear criteria, as set out in sections 6 and 7 of the witness protection act. Once it is established that a witness is suitable for admission to the witness protection program, the witness must enter into a protection agreement. All protection agreements contain the reciprocal obligations of both parties.
For example, under the act, the RCMP has the obligation to take all reasonable steps to provide the protection referred to in the agreement. The witness, on the other hand, has the obligation to do such things as provide testimony, meet all financial obligations prior to the change of identity, meet all legal obligations such as custody or maintenance of children, and refrain from any illegal activities.
Once they are admitted into the witness protection program, section 11 of the act provides for the continued protection of the identity of the protectee. Specifically, this section states that it is an offence to knowingly disclose, directly or indirectly, information about the location or the change of identity of a protectee. It should be noted that it is also an offence to disclose such information about a former witness who is no longer under protection.
The commissioner may disclose the location, or the change of identity, of a protectee or former protectee in the witness protection program under certain circumstances with the consent of the protectee or former protectee—if, for instance, the protectee or former protectee has previously disclosed the information or acted in a way that results in the disclosure, or disclosure is essential to the public interest, such as in criminal proceedings where the disclosure is essential to establish the innocence of a person.
[Translation]
The Witness Protection Program is managed by RCMP Witness Protection Coordinators located across Canada.
These Witness Protection coordinators and handlers form an integral part of all major investigations dealing with human sources and are specifically trained in this area of operations.
[English]
Witness protection considerations are usually addressed prior to the use of a human source as an agent. In a drug investigation, for example, when the use of a human source in an agent capacity is first proposed, the source handler will provide a proposal to the divisional witness protection coordinator for approval. The coordinator assesses whether the proposed source would be suitable for the witness protection program and whether or not we would be able to provide the appropriate protection to ensure his or her safety.
Admission to the witness protection program is a life-altering process. The protectees and their families are typically relocated to a new location and must sever ties with family and friends. This process is explained very clearly by the witness protection coordinators to the potential protectees prior to their beginning to assist the RCMP. Upon relocation, the protectee and family must start a new life in every sense of the word.
For many protectees, this is an opportunity to start a new life free of criminal activity. In order to assist them with this transition, protectees and family are provided access to psychological counselling to assist them with the transition to the new life. They're also provided with access to a witness protection coordinator on a 24/7 basis, to assist them with any difficulties they may encounter during their transition stage. The goal of the program, however, is to promote self-sufficiency as soon as possible. Protectees are well informed, verbally and in a written protective agreement, that any breach of protective conditions could lead to termination from the program.
I should note at this point that protectees are verbally informed, and it is documented in their protection agreement, that their admission to the program does not provide them immunity from prosecution. All individuals who enter the witness protection program continue to be subject to all Canadian laws. They are not treated differently from anyone else.
Being in the witness protection program does not confer immunity from responsibility for criminal actions, either before or after they enter the program. They remain subject to all acts of Parliament, like any other Canadian citizen. Furthermore, they are clearly advised that their existing criminal history remains with them, even if they have undergone an identity change. In other words, their criminal history will follow them to their new identity.
This is an important point here. The only protection the witness protection program provides a protectee is protection from individuals who may be trying to cause the protectee in question grievous bodily harm or death to prevent him or her from testifying against them in a criminal proceeding.
There are two types of terminations from the witness protection program: a voluntary termination and non-voluntary termination. A voluntary termination occurs when the protectee decides on his or her own to leave the program. This often occurs when the protectee decides that he or she can no longer abide by the conditions of the protection agreement, and in most instances protectees decide to return to the area of risk, where they are known, for varying reasons.
A non-voluntary termination is usually the result of a protectee contravening a condition of the agreement. In many cases, this is a result of the protectee being involved in criminal activity or in some way violating a condition of the protective agreement, such as returning to the threat area or disclosing his new identity or location.
Prior to an individual's termination from the witness protection program, reasonable steps are taken to notify the protectee of the decision and to allow him or her an opportunity to make representation concerning the matter.
These are my comments.
[Translation]
Thank you for allowing me to make these opening comments.
[English]
My colleagues and I would be more than pleased to answer any questions you may have.
:
We don't have a separate budget assigned for the relocation and moving of these people. We pay for these expenses as we incur them. We pay for them at the divisional level.
It should be pointed out that the witness protection program is not just for the RCMP, it's also for all law enforcement across Canada. Presently we have a little more than 700 people in the program who are managed by the RCMP and approximately a little more than 300 we received from outside agencies.
On the budget side and how much we spend per witness, we're not part of that decision-making process when it comes to cases referred perhaps from Montreal, from the Vancouver city police, or from the OPP. As for ours, we are involved in that decision-making, but it's hard to give an average cost per case because they vary so much.
In some cases when we bring in a very valuable witness on an organized crime case, it may appear to be very expensive when you look at the actual cost of the award and the relocation. But when we put that in the context of what the police force will actually spend to investigate that particular group, when you think about the number of nights, perhaps, that we're eliminating in surveillance on a group, or of all the background work you have to do, we find, with the right witness, that we can quite often infiltrate that group at a level that allows us to do maximum damage to that organization in the shortest period of time.
The annual report does indicate the expenditures, but we're going to revise that because the annual report does not include the actual cost of the RCMP officers—so their salary dollars. We're going to make some adjustments to the annual report so it's a little clearer as to what expenses are attached to moving these people.
:
That's when it's important to understand the difference between informant and agent, which I referred to during my opening comment. An informant is a human source who supplies information to the police. The person simply provides information. We accept that information—thank you very much—and we act on it.
As soon as we begin to direct a human source to do certain things on our behalf, such as to go and buy drugs from a target—to go and do any number of activities that we may direct a human source to do—that human source becomes an agent, because now he or she is acting under our direction.
Agents—we end up owning them, to the extent that they have to testify in court. They become compellable, and as soon as that happens, before we move from that informant to that agent status, we have to do a proper assessment to determine whether we can afford to own that person. When I say “owning that person”, I am referring to what I said when Mr. Ménard asked me what it costs. I told him the costs vary quite a bit, based on the assets that the person may have, the number of people in the person's family, what it would cost to relocate that individual, and how much that individual owes in debts, because those debts have to be paid off before the individual is admitted into the program—things of this nature. We have to do a complete evaluation as to whether we can end up owning up that person to the extent of admitting her or him into the program and looking after her or his expenses. The assessment by the witness protection coordinators determines whether we can do so.
There's a sliding scale, of course, and the sliding scale is the importance of the criminal organization we're going after, so we may be able to extend ourselves a little more. Based on that assessment, a decision is made that we can admit that person. The witness is met. The witness protection program is very clearly explained to the person. We look at the individual to determine whether or not that individual can live within this very tightly framed witness protection program. It requires, first of all, a certain amount of discipline, because witnesses have to sever ties. They have to sever ties with where they came from.
We look at all these factors, all the section 7 factors. We determine the harm to the community. There are about seven or eight factors, including risk and security of the witness, danger to the community, nature of the inquiry, nature of the investigation, value of the information or evidence, likelihood of the witness being able to adjust to the program, costs of maintaining the witness in the program, alternate methods—meaning whether there's a way to deal with that person without having to put her or him into the witness protection program—and any other factors that become relevant.
Once that is done, a determination is made. It is explained to the witness, who signs a protective agreement that sets out very clearly that the witness is not going to be living in any bubble. He or she will be subject to all the laws of the country. Then a relocation is made.