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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 25
Thursday, June 16, 2022, 3:41 p.m. to 11:18 a.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Peter Schiefke, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Cédric Taquet, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Dana Fan, Analyst
• Geneviève Gosselin, Analyst
• Alexandre Lafrenière, Analyst
Canada Border Services Agency
• Denis Vinette, Vice-President, Travellers Branch
Canadian Air Transport Security Authority
• Nancy Fitchett, Vice-President, Corporate Affairs and Chief Financial Officer
• Neil Parry, Vice-President, Operations
Department of Transport
• Colin Stacey, Director General, Air Policy
• Craig Hutton, Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy
• Aaron McCrorie, Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Safety and Security
• Stephanie Hébert, Assistant Deputy Minister, Programs
NAV CANADA
• Jonathan Bagg, Director, Stakeholder and Industry Relations
• Leigh Ann Kirby, Vice-President, Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary
Public Health Agency of Canada
• Kimby Barton, Acting Vice-President, Health Security and Regional Operations Branch
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Thursday, February 3, 2022, the committee resumed its study of reducing red tape and costs on rural and urban Canadian airports.

The witnesses made statements and answered questions.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Taylor Bachrach moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), an order of this committee do issue for a copy of all relevant documents containing public health advice and scientific modelling received by the Minister of Transport relating to the decision to issue on June 1, 2022, the Interim Order for Civil Aviation Respecting Requirements Related to Vaccination Due to COVID-19, No. 2.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Annie Koutrakis moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting all of the words after the words “a copy of” and replacing them with the following “public health advice and scientific modelling in support of the decision to maintain existing public health measures received by the Minister of Transport relating to the decision to issue on June 1, 2022, the Interim Order for Civil Aviation Respecting Requirements Related to Vaccination Due to COVID-19”.

Motion

Vance Badawey moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Vance Badawey, George Chahal, Angelo Iacono, Annie Koutrakis, Churence Rogers — 5;

NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Xavier Barsalou-Duval, Terry Dowdall, Matt Jeneroux, Melissa Lantsman, Dan Muys — 6.

Motion

Vance Badawey moved, — That the committee proceed to sit in camera.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Vance Badawey, George Chahal, Angelo Iacono, Annie Koutrakis, Churence Rogers — 5;

NAYS: Taylor Bachrach, Xavier Barsalou-Duval, Terry Dowdall, Matt Jeneroux, Melissa Lantsman, Dan Muys — 6.

Subamendment

Churence Rogers moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding at the end, the words "that the production of documents be consistent with relevant legislation concerning confidentiality”.

At 4:34 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:38 p.m., the sitting resumed.

At 5:41 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

On Monday, June 20, 2022, at 11:03 a.m., the sitting resumed.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion, of Taylor Bachrach moved on Thursday, June 16, 2022 which read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), an order of this committee do issue for a copy of all relevant documents containing public health advice and scientific modelling received by the Minister of Transport relating to the decision to issue on June 1, 2022, the Interim Order for Civil Aviation Respecting Requirements Related to Vaccination Due to COVID-19, No. 2.

and of the amendment of Annie Koutrakis moved on Thursday, June 16, 2022 which read as follows:

That the motion be amended by deleting all of the words after the words “a copy of” and replacing them with the following “public health advice and scientific modelling in support of the decision to maintain existing public health measures received by the Minister of Transport relating to the decision to issue on June 1, 2022, the Interim Order for Civil Aviation Respecting Requirements Related to Vaccination Due to COVID-19”.

and of the subamendment of Churence Rogers moved on Thursday, June 16, 2022 which read as follows:

That the amendment be amended by adding at the end the words “and that the production of documents be consistent with relevant legislation concerning confidentiality”.

By unanimous consent, the amendment of Annie Koutrakis was withdrawn.

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That, the motion be adopted to read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), an order of this committee do issue for a copy of all relevant documents containing public health advice and scientific modelling received by the Minister of Transport relating to the decision to issue on June 1, 2022, the Interim Order for Civil Aviation Respecting Requirements Related to Vaccination Due to COVID-19, No. 2; that the production of documents be consistent with relevant legislation concerning confidentiality; and that the documents be returned to the committee no later than July 20, 2022.

Motion

Xavier Barsalou-Duval moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), an order of the committee be issued for a copy of all relevant documents relating to federal-provincial bilateral agreements on infrastructure, including the 2018 Canada – Quebec Integrated Bilateral Agreement for the Investing In Canada Infrastructure Program; That these documents include, but are not limited to: (i) all communications, including letters, e-mails, text messages and messages on internal messaging software (Skype, Teams, Messenger, etc.), between the offices of the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities, the Deputy Prime Minister and the Minister of Finance, and with the governments of Quebec, the provinces and territories; (ii) all communications, including letters, e-mails, text messages and messages on internal messaging software (Skype, Teams, Messenger, etc.), between the office of the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities and Infrastructure Canada officials and the Intergovernmental Affairs Secretariat; (iii) all communications, including letters, e-mails, text messages and messages on internal messaging software (Skype, Teams, Messenger, etc.), between Infrastructure Canada officials and the Intergovernmental Affairs Secretariat; (iv) documents that track or show changes and differences in bilateral agreements between the federal government, Quebec, the provinces and territories (v) all versions of the terms and conditions of the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Program, the Gas Tax Fund (now the Community-Building Fund), the Community-Building Fund, the Clean Water and Wastewater Fund, the Public Transit Infrastructure Fund and the 2016 New Building Canada Fund, along with the dates for which said versions were in effect, as well as Treasury Board submissions for the approval of the aforementioned program terms and conditions (vi) the final records of meetings of the management committees, management sub-committee and monitoring committee for the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Program, the Gas Tax Fund (Community-Building Fund), the Community-Building Fund, the Clean Water and Wastewater Fund, the Public Transit Infrastructure Fund and the 2016 New Building Canada Fund; (vii) the final and administrative versions of amendments signed by Quebec, the provinces and territories; (viii) relevant notes, documents and memos; and That these documents be provided to the committee in unredacted form within 30 calendar days of the adoption of this order.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Xavier Barsalou-Duval, Matt Jeneroux, Melissa Lantsman, Dan Muys, Doug Shipley — 5;

NAYS: Charlie Angus, George Chahal, Ken Hardie, Angelo Iacono, Annie Koutrakis, Churence Rogers — 6.

On motion of George Chahal, it was agreed, — That the committee do now adjourn.

At 11:18 a.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Michael MacPherson
Clerk of the committee