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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 40
Monday, October 24, 2022, 3:41 p.m. to 4:58 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Ron McKinnon, Chair (Liberal)

• Stephen Ellis for Dane Lloyd (Conservative)
• Rick Perkins for Dane Lloyd (Conservative)
Library of Parliament
• Lyne Casavant, Analyst
• Allison Goody, Analyst
Pursuant to Standing Order 106(4), the committee commenced consideration of the request by five members of the committee to undertake a study of development regarding the allegations of political interference in the Nova Scotia Mass Murder Investigation.

Motion

Raquel Dancho moved, — That pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) the committee meet for one meeting, on Thursday, October 27th, 2022 in relation to the public release of the recording of RCMP Commissioner Lucki’s call to the Nova Scotia RCMP and the allegations of political interference in the 2020 Nova Scotia Mass Murder Investigation, and that RCMP Commissioner Lucki appear in the first hour, that Minister Blair be invited to appear in the second hour, and that the previously scheduled witnesses for C-21 be added to an additional meeting for the C-21 study.

Amendment

Pam Damoff moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “committee meet for one meeting, on Thursday, October 27th, 2022” with the following: “the committee meet following consideration of Bill C-21”.

The question was put on the amendment of Pam Damoff and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 7.

Amendment

Alistair MacGregor moved, — That the motion be amended by adding the following: “or as soon as possible” after the words “Thursday, October 27th, 2022”.

Subamendment

Glen Motz moved, — That the motion be amended by adding the following: “or before Thursday, November 3, 2022” after the words “ or as soon as possible”.

The question was put on the subamendment of Glen Motz and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 4; NAYS: 6.

Subamendment

Kristina Michaud moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “on Thursday, October 27th, 2022 or as soon as possible” the following: “on Thursday, October 27th, 2022 or as soon as possible, before Thursday, November 10, 2022”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Kristina Michaud and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 1.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Alistair MacGregor and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Paul Chiang, Pam Damoff, Raquel Dancho, Stephen Ellis, Alistair MacGregor, Kristina Michaud, Glen Motz, Taleeb Noormohamed, Rick Perkins, Peter Schiefke, Tony Van Bynen — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Amendment

Doug Shipley moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “before Thursday, November 10, 2022” with the following: “before Friday, November 4, 2022”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Doug Shipley and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Paul Chiang, Pam Damoff, Raquel Dancho, Alistair MacGregor, Kristina Michaud, Glen Motz, Taleeb Noormohamed, Rick Perkins, Peter Schiefke, Doug Shipley, Tony Van Bynen — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Amendment

Pam Damoff moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “and that the previously scheduled witnesses for C-21 be added to an additional meeting for the C-21 study” the following: “including during the week of November 7, 2022 if necessary”.

The question was put on the amendment of Pam Damoff and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Paul Chiang, Pam Damoff, Raquel Dancho, Alistair MacGregor, Kristina Michaud, Glen Motz, Taleeb Noormohamed, Rick Perkins, Peter Schiefke, Doug Shipley, Tony Van Bynen — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Raquel Dancho, Alistair MacGregor, Kristina Michaud, Glen Motz, Rick Perkins, Doug Shipley — 6;

NAYS: Paul Chiang, Pam Damoff, Taleeb Noormohamed, Peter Schiefke, Tony Van Bynen — 5.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) the committee meet for one meeting, by November 4, 2022, in relation to the public release of the recording of RCMP Commissioner Lucki’s call to the Nova Scotia RCMP and the allegations of political interference in the 2020 Nova Scotia Mass Murder Investigation, and that RCMP Commissioner Lucki appear in the first hour, that Minister Blair be invited to appear in the second hour, and that the previously scheduled witnesses for C-21 be added to an additional meeting for the C-21 study, including during the week of November 7, 2022, if necessary.

Motion

Alistair MacGregor moved, — That the Chair, on behalf of the committee, contact the Ontario Provincial Police demanding an immediate response regarding their testimony before the committee on Thursday, March 24, 2022, where they identified possible security threats in relation to the Freedom Convoy, which runs in apparent contradiction to their testimony before the Public Order Emergency Commission on Wednesday, October 19, 2022.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Paul Chiang, Pam Damoff, Raquel Dancho, Alistair MacGregor, Kristina Michaud, Glen Motz, Taleeb Noormohamed, Rick Perkins, Peter Schiefke, Doug Shipley, Tony Van Bynen — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Motion

Tony Van Bynen moved, — That, pursuant to standing order 108(2), the committee takes up a study to review Emergency Preparedness with respect to extreme weather hazards including but not limited to floods, forest fires, ice/snowstorms and hurricanes and that:

(a) The study includes a review of critical infrastructure at high risk from these events; what all levels of government are doing to mitigate these risks; and what response and recovery capacity is in place when disasters do occur, including a review of roles, responsibilities, and processes to activate response mechanisms;

(b) This study includes at least four meetings;

(c) The committee invite the President of the King's Privy Council and Minister of Emergency Preparedness to appear, and other witnesses as requested by the committee;

(d) This committee report its findings to the House; and that, pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government table a comprehensive to the report .

By unanimous consent, after debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

At 4:58 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Simon Larouche
Clerk of the committee