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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 20
Monday, May 9, 2022, 11:02 a.m. to 12:52 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Pat Kelly, Chair (Conservative)

Library of Parliament
• Alexandra Savoie, Analyst
• Sabrina Charland, Analyst
Royal Canadian Mounted Police
• André Boileau, Officer in Charge, National Child Exploitation Crime Centre
• Gordon Sage, Director General, Sensitive and Specialized Investigative Services
• Roch Séguin, Director, Strategic Services Branch, Technical Operations
Toronto Police Service
• Colin Stairs, Chief Information Officer
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(h) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, December 13, 2021, the committee resumed its study of use and impact of facial recognition technology.

The witnesses answered questions.

Motion

Matthew Green moved, — That RCMP Commissioner, Brenda Lucki, appear before this committee.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Motion

Jean-Denis Garon moved, — That the committee require the RCMP to produce to the committee, no later than June 1, 2022, an unredacted copy of any contract or licensing agreement between the RCMP and Clearview AI for the past 5 years; to produce any ethics analysis produced by the RCMP prior to the use of Clearview AI's technologies; if no such analysis has been produced by the RCMP, that the RCMP provide the committee with written confirmation.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Iqra Khalid moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the word "unredacted" and by replacing the words “ethics analysis” with the words “charter analysis”.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the amendment and the result of the vote was announced:

YEAS: James Bezan, Jean-Denis Garon, Matthew Green, Damien C. Kurek, Ryan Williams — 5;

NAYS: Parm Bains, Greg Fergus, Lisa Hepfner, Iqra Khalid, Ya'ara Saks — 5.

Whereupon, the Chair voted in the negative.

Accordingly, the amendment was negatived.

Amendment

Matthew Green moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “provide the Committee with written confirmation” the following: “; and that the documents received be reviewed by the members in camera”.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Matthew Green and it was agreed to.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the Committee require the RCMP to produce to the Committee, no later than June 1, 2022, an unredacted copy of any contract or licensing agreement between the RCMP and Clearview AI for the past 5 years; to produce any ethics analysis produced by the RCMP prior to the use of Clearview AI's technologies; if no such analysis has been produced by the RCMP, that the RCMP provide the Committee with written confirmation; and that the documents received be reviewed by the committee members in camera.

At 12:52 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Nancy Vohl
Clerk of the committee