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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 30
Thursday, May 6, 2021, 6:33 p.m. to 8:38 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Scott Simms, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Angela Crandall, Procedural Clerk
• Jacques Maziade, Legislative Clerk
• Philippe Méla, Legislative Clerk
• Émilie Thivierge, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Gabrielle de Billy Brown, Analyst
• Marion Ménard, Analyst
Department of Canadian Heritage
• Thomas Owen Ripley, Director General, Broadcasting, Copyright and Creative Marketplace Branch
• Drew Olsen, Senior Director, Marketplace and Legislative Policy
• Kathy Tsui, Manager, Industrial and Social Policy, Broadcasting, Copyright and Creative Marketplace Branch
• Patrick Smith, Senior Analyst, Marketplace and Legislative Policy
Pursuant to the order of reference of Tuesday, February 16, 2021, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-10, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts.

Rachael Harder moved, — That the committee resume debate on the motion moved by Rachael Harder, on Friday, April 30, 2021.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Rachael Harder, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Marie-France Lalonde, James Maloney, Heather McPherson, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

At 7:34 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 7:38 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The committee resumed consideration of the amendment, moved by Julie Dabrusin, on the motion, of Rachael Harder, as amended, moved on Friday, April 30, 2021, which read as follows:

That the motion be amended by deleting the words “given that the deletion of section 4.1. Clause 3 of Bill C-10 would extend the application of the Broadcasting Act to programs uploaded by users of social media services which, in turn, could violate paragraph 2(b) of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms; and that given”; by replacing the words “Minister of Justice produce an updated "Charter Statement" in the next 10 days” with the words “Minister of Justice produce an updated “Charter Statement” as soon as possible after clause by clause is completed”; by deleting the words “as amended to date,” before the words “on the rights and freedoms”; by replacing the words “appear before the Committee to discuss” with the words “explain in writing” before the words “the implications of Bill C-10; by deleting the words “as amended to date” after the words “implications of Bill C-10”; by replacing the words “for users of social media services in the next 10 days” with the words “for users of social media services as soon as possible after clause by clause is completed”; and by deleting subparagraph (c).

Debate continued.

Anthony Housefather moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Marie-France Lalonde, James Maloney — 6;

NAYS: Scott Aitchison, Heather McPherson, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 5.

Thomas Owen Ripley answered questions.

The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

The Committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 7 of the Bill, as amended.

Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-10, in Clause 7, be amended

(a) by adding after line 31 on page 7 the following:

“(i.1) in relation to online undertakings that provide a social media service, the discoverability of Canadian creators of programs”; and

(b) by adding after line 10 on page 8 the following:

“(3.1) Orders made under this section, other than orders made under paragraph (1)(e.2), (i.1) or (j), do not apply in respect of programs that are uploaded to an online undertaking that provides a social media service by a user of the service — if that user is not the provider of the service or the provider’s affiliate, or the agent or mandatary of either of them — for transmission over the Internet and reception by other users of the service.”

Debate arose thereon.

Motion

Martin Shields moved, — That the committee do now adjourn.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Scott Aitchison, Martin Champoux, Julie Dabrusin, Anthony Housefather, Marci Ien, Marie-France Lalonde, James Maloney, Heather McPherson, Alain Rayes, Martin Shields, Kevin Waugh — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

At 8:38 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Aimée Belmore
Clerk of the Committee