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Minutes of Proceedings

42nd Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 216
Tuesday, May 28, 2019, 8:50 a.m. to 10:10 a.m.
Presiding
Hon. Wayne Easter, Chair (Liberal)

• Paul Lefebvre for Kim Rudd (Liberal)
• Geng Tan for Kim Rudd (Liberal)
House of Commons
• Evelyn Lukyniuk, Procedural Clerk
• Jacques Maziade, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Andrew Barton, Analyst
Department of Veterans Affairs
• Faith McIntyre, Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy and Research, Strategic Policy and Commemoration Branch
Department of Employment and Social Development
• Milena Gulia, Director, Policy and Research, Canada Student Loans Program
• Rachel Torrie, Senior Analyst, Canada Student Loans Program
Parks Canada Agency
• Dave McDonough, Executive Director, Pacific and Mountain Parks
• Annie Boyer, Deputy Chief Financial Officer and Director, Corporate Resources Management
• Kevin McNamee, Director, Protected Areas Establishment and Conservation
Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development
• Jean-Pierre Morin, Departmental Historian, Strategic Policy Directorate
Department of Public Works and Government Services
• Shawn Gardner, Senior Director, Real Property Services Management Contracting Directorate
Department of Justice
• Christopher Meszaros, Senior Counsel
Pursuant to the Order of Reference of Tuesday, April 30, 2019, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-97, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 19, 2019, and other measures.

The Committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

Milena Gulia, Dave McDonough, Jean-Pierre Morin, Shawn Gardner and Chris Meszaros answered questions.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 318 to 322 inclusive carried on division severally.

On Clause 323,

Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 323, be amended by adding after line 7 on page 296 the following:

“(1.1) Section 4 of the Act is amended by adding the following after subsection (2):

(2.1) Despite any other provision of this Act, no interest is payable by a borrower on a guaranteed student loan made on or after the coming into force of this subsection to a full-time student.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Blake Richards — 3;

NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Paul Lefebvre, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5.

Clause 323 carried on division.

Clause 324 carried on division.

On Clause 325,

Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 325, be amended by adding after line 21 on page 297 the following:

“(2) Section 7 of the Act is amended by adding the following after subsection (1):

(1.1) Despite any other provision of this Act, no interest is payable by a borrower on a student loan made on or after the coming into force of this subsection to a full-time or part-time student.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Pierre-Luc Dusseault, Tom Kmiec, Pierre Poilievre, Blake Richards — 4;

NAYS: Rachel Bendayan, Peter Fragiskatos, Paul Lefebvre, Michael V. McLeod, Francesco Sorbara — 5.

Clause 325 carried on division.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 326 to 335 inclusive carried on division severally.

On Clause 336,

Peter Fragiskatos moved, — That Bill C-97 be amended by adding, before line 1 on page 311, the following:

Enactment of Act

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Peter Fragiskatos and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 3.

Rachel Bendayan moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 336, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 311 with the following:

relationships based on affirmation and implemen-

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachel Bendayan and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 3.

Rachel Bendayan moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 336, be amended by

(a) replacing line 9 on page 313 with the following:

nous individuals who, and Indigenous governing bodies that, are eligible to receive those services

(b) replacing lines 12 and 13 on page 313 with the following:

(2) The Minister is to ensure that services with respect to the following matters are provided to Indigenous individuals who, and Indigenous governing bodies that, are eligible to receive

(c) replacing line 16 on page 313 with the following:

responsible — including, in the case of Indigenous individuals, services provided by Indigenous governing bodies, if applicable:

(d) adding after line 24 on page 313 the following:

(h.1) governance; and

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Rachel Bendayan and it was agreed to, by a show of hands: YEAS: 6; NAYS: 2.

Paul Lefebvre moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 336, be amended by replacing lines 33 and 34 on page 313 with the following:

(b) in accordance with any agreements respecting the transfer of responsibilities that are entered into under section 9, take the appropriate measures to give effect to the gradual transfer to

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Paul Lefebvre and it was agreed to on division.

Michael V. McLeod moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 336, be amended by replacing line 18 on page 316 with the following:

(a) the socio-economic gaps between First Nations individuals, Inuit, Métis indi-

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michael V. McLeod and it was agreed to on division.

Clause 336, as amended, carried on division.

On new Clause 336.1,

Peter Fragiskatos moved, — That Bill C-97 be amended by adding after line 22 on page 316 the following:

Coming into Force

336.1 This Subdivision comes into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council, but no later than July 15, 2019.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Peter Fragiskatos and it was agreed to on division.

On Clause 337,

Michael V. McLeod moved, — That Bill C-97 be amended by adding, before line 23 on page 316, the following:

Enactment of Act

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michael V. McLeod and it was agreed to on division.

Michael V. McLeod moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 337, be amended by replacing line 32 on page 316 with the following:

relationships based on affirmation and implemen-

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michael V. McLeod and it was agreed to on division.

Michael V. McLeod moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 337, be amended by adding after line 13 on page 317 the following:

recognizes and implements treaties concluded between the Crown and Indigenous peoples,

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michael V. McLeod and it was agreed to on division.

Michael V. McLeod moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 337, be amended by

(a) replacing line 6 on page 319 with the following:

Canada in relation to the affirmation and implementa-

(b) replacing line 11 on page 319 with the following:

(b) negotiating treaties and other agreements to advance the self-deter-

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michael V. McLeod and it was agreed to on division.

Clause 337, as amended, carried on division.

On new Clause 337.1,

Michael V. McLeod moved, — That Bill C-97 be amended by adding after line 29 on page 323 the following:

Coming into Force

337.1 This Subdivision comes into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council, but no later than July 15, 2019.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michael V. McLeod and it was agreed to on division.

Clauses 338 to 382 inclusive carried on division severally.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 338 to 382 inclusive carried on division severally.

On Clause 383,

Michael V. McLeod moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 383, be amended by replacing lines 1 to 3 on page 343 with the following:

383 (1) This Subdivision, except for subsections 368(2) and 369(2) and sections 376 to 381, comes into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council, but no later than July 15, 2019.

(2) Subsections 368(2) and 369(2) come into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council, but that day must not be earlier than the day on which subsections 368(1) and 369(1) come into force.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michael V. McLeod and it was agreed to on division.

Clause 383, as amended, carried on division.

By unanimous consent, Clauses 384 to 386 inclusive carried on division severally.

On Clause 387,

Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 387, be amended by adding after line 5 on page 347 the following:

“(2) This Act also applies to construction projects located in Canada in respect of any federal real property or federal immovable carried out through a public-private partnership with Her Majesty.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 3; NAYS: 5.

Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 387, be amended by adding after line 32 on page 348 the following:

“(2.1) Her Majesty or the service provider may authorize a contractor to submit a revised proper invoice no later than the 21st day after the day on which the proper invoice is received.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.

Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 387, be amended by replacing line 8 on page 349 with the following:

“specting prior certification of the construction work. ”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.

Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 387, be amended by adding after line 39 on page 352 the following:

“(1.1) The dispute over the non-payment may include a dispute respecting the cost of services or materials in relation to a proposed change to the contract or change order.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.

Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 387, be amended by adding after line 7 on page 354 the following:

“(1.1) The adjudicator may, if two or more disputes involve the same parties and substantially the same issues, join the disputes for the purposes of adjudication.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 6.

Pierre-Luc Dusseault moved, — That Bill C-97, in Clause 387, be amended by adding after line 12 on page 356 the following:

“(c) cases where labour and material payment bonds and performance bonds are to be provided.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Pierre-Luc Dusseault and it was negatived, by a show of hands: YEAS: 1; NAYS: 4.

Clause 387 carried on division.

Clause 388 carried on division.

Schedule 1 carried on division.

Schedule 2 carried on division.

Schedule 3 carried on division.

Schedule 4 carried on division.

Clause 1, Short Title, carried on division.

The Title carried on division.

The Bill, as amended, carried by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 4.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House.

ORDERED, — That Bill C-97, as amended, be reprinted for the use of the House at report stage.

At 10:10 a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



David Gagnon
Clerk of the Committee