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Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration

NUMBER 003 
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2nd SESSION 
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39th PARLIAMENT 

EVIDENCE

Thursday, November 22, 2007

[Recorded by Electronic Apparatus]

  (1555)  

[English]

The Chair (Mr. Norman Doyle (St. John's East, CPC)):
    Order. We are now in public session.
    Could we have Ms. Faille give us the motion again, please?
Mr. Ed Komarnicki (Souris—Moose Mountain, CPC):
    Mr. Chair, we've had some discussion and I think we will end up supporting the motion as it is, but reluctantly. I want it on the record that notwithstanding that I think it's unreasonable, given our agenda and the fact that we'll be doing it on December 13, we will support the motion.
The Chair:
    Are you ready for the vote?
Hon. Jim Karygiannis (Scarborough—Agincourt, Lib.):
    Do you want to read the motion?
The Chair:
    Madam Faille, would you read the motion again, please?

[Translation]

Ms. Meili Faille (Vaudreuil-Soulanges, BQ):
    The motion reads as follows:
    That official representatives of Citizenship and Immigration Canada appear before the committee on December 13, 2007 and submit, by December 11, 2007, a history of regularization programs, statistics and a detailed report on undocumented workers.

[English]

The Chair:
    Thank you, Madam Faille.
    (Motion agreed to)
Mr. Ed Komarnicki:
    Was that in camera?
The Chair:
    That was public.
    We will now go in camera again.
    [Proceedings continue in camera]

    

    

    [Public proceedings resume]

  (1605)  

The Chair:
    We're no longer in camera.
    Let's try to get this amendment done.
Hon. Jim Karygiannis:
    Mr. Chair, I would ask that you take us back in camera or I'm going to challenge your ruling. I don't think you can, at the whim of one member, end our in camera proceedings. I don't think so, sir.
The Chair:
    I'll get direction from the clerk here.
The Clerk of the Committee (Mr. Andrew Chaplin):
    On a motion to sit in public or to sit in camera, the question is put without debate. It's put immediately and it's decided by a majority of the committee.
The Chair:
    Does that apply to going in camera or to public?
The Clerk:
    It applies to both. Whether you're going in or out, it's done with the consent of the committee.
The Chair:
    You're saying this committee has to give consent to move in camera or to resume public proceedings.
Hon. Jim Karygiannis:
    You've got to move us back in camera. Are we in camera right now or not?
The Chair:
    Is there consent to resume public proceedings?
    Some hon. members: No.
    The Chair: There's no consent.
Ms. Olivia Chow (Trinity—Spadina, NDP):
    I'll withdraw the amendment at this point.
The Chair:
    Order, please.
    Do you wish to withdraw the amendment?
Ms. Olivia Chow:
    I'll withdraw it and I'll place it as a notice of motion when we become public, which is totally in order.
The Chair:
    We will proceed in camera.
    [Proceedings continue in camera]