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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting No. 59

Tuesday, February 27, 2007

The Standing Committee on Human Resources, Social Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities met at 3:35 p.m. this day, in Room 209, West Block, the Chair, Dean Allison, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Dean Allison, Patrick Brown, Hon. Michael D. Chong, Ruby Dhalla, Mike Lake, Yves Lessard, Michael Savage, Mario Silva and Lynne Yelich.

Acting Members present: Hon. Carolyn Bennett for Gary Merasty, Chris Charlton for Tony Martin, Raymond Gravel for France Bonsant and Hon. Gurbax Malhi for Gary Merasty.

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Kevin Kerr, Analyst . House of Commons: Marc Toupin, Legislative Clerk ; Christine Lafrance, Committee Clerk.

Witnesses: Department of Human Resources and Social Development: Marla Israel, Director, International Policy and Agreements, Seniors and Pensions Policy Secretariat, Social Development Sectors Branch; Nancy Lawand, Director General, Canada Pension Plan Disability Directorate. Service Canada: Ross MacLeod, Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Operations Branch. Department of Finance : Suzan Kalinowski, Senior Economist.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference of Tuesday, January 30, 2007, the Committee commenced consideration of Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act.

The Committee commenced its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

The Chair called Clause 1.

Clause 1 carried.

Clause 2 carried.

Clause 3 carried.

On Clause 4,

Yves Lessard moved, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 36 on page 2 with the following:

“recoverable within six years in the Federal Court or”

At 3:53 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 3:59 p.m., the sitting resumed.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Yves Lessard and it was negatived.

Yves Lessard moved, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 41 on page 2 with the following:

“recoverable within six years in the Federal Court or”

The question was put on the amendment of Yves Lessard and it was negatived on the following recorded division: YEAS: Chris Charlton, Raymond Gravel, Yves Lessard — 3; NAYS: Carolyn Bennett, Patrick Brown, Michael D. Chong, Ruby Dhalla, Mike Lake, Michael Savage, Mario Silva, Lynne Yelich — 8.

Yves Lessard moved, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 3 with the following:

“to Her Majesty and is recoverable within six years in”

Clause 4 carried.

Clauses 5 to 10 inclusive carried severally.

On Clause 11,

Yves Lessard moved, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 11, be amended by deleting lines 8 to 10 on page 8.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Yves Lessard and it was negatived on the following recorded division: YEAS: Raymond Gravel, Yves Lessard — 2; NAYS: Carolyn Bennett, Patrick Brown, Chris Charlton, Michael D. Chong, Ruby Dhalla, Mike Lake, Michael Savage, Lynne Yelich — 8.

Clause 11 carried.

Clauses 12 to 15 inclusive carried severally.

On Clause 15.1,

Yves Lessard moved, — That Bill C-36 be amended by adding after line 9 on page 12 the following new clause:

“15.1 Section 8 of the Act is amended by adding the following after subsection (1):

(1.1) The first pension payment to any person shall include an application for payment of a supplement referred to in subsection 11(2).”

Debate arose thereon.

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it sought to amend sections of the parent Act not amended by the Bill, as provided on page 654 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice.

On Clause 16,

Yves Lessard moved, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing line 12 on page 12 with the following:

“(4) The Minister shall waive the requirement”

Yves Lessard moved, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 16, be amended by adding after line 18 on page 12 the following:

“(1.1) Paragraph 11(7)(a) of the Act is repealed.”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it infringed on the financial initiative of the Crown, as provided on page 655 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice.

Chris Charlton moved, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 16, be amended by deleting lines 19 to 24 on page 12.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Chris Charlton and it was negatived on the following recorded division: YEAS: Chris Charlton, Raymond Gravel, Yves Lessard — 3; NAYS: Carolyn Bennett, Patrick Brown, Michael D. Chong, Ruby Dhalla, Mike Lake, Michael Savage, Mario Silva, Lynne Yelich — 8.

Clause 16 carried.

On Clause 17,

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the result of the vote on a previous amendment be applied to the following amendment which is therefore also negatived:

That Bill C-36, in Clause 17, be amended by replacing line 27 on page 12 with the following:

“(1.01) The Minister shall waive the require-”

Clause 17 carried.

On Clause 18,

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the result of the vote on a previous amendment be applied to the following two (2) amendments which are therefore also negatived:

That Bill C-36, in Clause 18, be amended by replacing line 40 on page 17 with the following:

“(2.1) The Minister shall waive the require-”

That Bill C-36, in Clause 18, be amended by replacing line 1 on page 18 with the following:

“(2.2) The Minister shall waive the require-”

Clause 18 carried.

On Clause 19,

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the result of the vote on a previous amendment be applied to the following amendment which is therefore also negatived:

That Bill C-36, in Clause 19, be amended by replacing line 9 on page 18 with the following:

“(4.1) The Minister shall waive the require-”

Yves Lessard moved, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 19, be amended by replacing lines 17 to 22 on page 18 with the following:

“repealed.”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it infringed on the financial initiative of the Crown, as provided on page 655 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice.

Chris Charlton moved, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 19, be amended by deleting lines 23 to 28 on page 18.

Clause 19 carried.

On Clause 20,

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the result of the vote on a previous amendment be applied to the following amendment which is therefore also negatived:

That Bill C-36, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing line 31 on page 18 with the following:

“(5.1) The Minister shall waive the require-”

Yves Lessard moved, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing lines 2 to 7 on page 19 with the following:

“repealed.”

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible because it infringed on the financial initiative of the Crown, as provided on page 655 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice.

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the result of the vote on a previous amendment be applied to the following amendment which is therefore also negatived:

That Bill C-36, in Clause 20, be amended by deleting lines 8 to 13 on page 19.

Clause 20 carried.

On Clause 21,

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the result of the vote on a previous amendment be applied to the following amendment which is therefore also negatived:

That Bill C-36, in Clause 21, be amended by replacing line 16 on page 19 with the following:

“(1.1) For greater certainty, the Minister shall”

Clause 21 carried.

On Clause 22,

On motion of Yves Lessard, it was agreed, — That Bill C-36, in Clause 22, be amended by replacing line 27 on page 19 with the following:

“26.1 When the requirement for an application for”

Clause 22, as amended, carried.

Clause 23 carried.

Clause 24 carried.

On Clause 25,

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the result of the vote on a previous amendment be applied to the following amendment which is therefore also negatived:

That Bill C-36, in Clause 25, be amended by deleting lines 1 to 3 on page 21.

Clause 25 carried.

Clause 26 carried.

Clause 27 carried.

On Clause 28,

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That the result of the vote on a previous amendment be applied to the following three (3) amendments which are therefore also negatived:

That Bill C-36, in Clause 28, be amended by replacing line 2 on page 23 with the following:

“recoverable within six years in the Federal Court or”

That Bill C-36, in Clause 28, be amended by replacing line 7 on page 23 with the following:

“recoverable within six years in the Federal Court or”

That Bill C-36, in Clause 28, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 23 with the following:

“to Her Majesty and is recoverable within six years in”

Clause 28 carried.

Clauses 29 to 39 inclusive carried severally.

The Title carried.

The Bill, as amended, carried.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to Committee business.

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That, notwithstanding the Order of the Committee of February 7, 2007, the Committee hear witnesses on the study of Employability in Canada on Wednesday, March 21, 2007 and on Wednesday, March 28, 2007.

At 5:20 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Graeme Truelove
Committee Clerk

2007/03/01 11:41 a.m.