HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION

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JOURNALS

No. 147

Thursday, October 30, 2003

10:00 a.m.

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Prayers

Ways and Means

Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Notice of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Income Tax Act. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 9) — Sessional Paper No. 8570-372-13.

Pursuant to Standing Order 83(2), at the request of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , an Order of the Day was designated for the consideration of this Ways and Means motion.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) laid upon the Table, — Performance Reports for the period ended March 31, 2003, as follows:

(1) Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-91;

(2) Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-92;

(3) Canada Customs and Revenue Agency Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-93;

(4) Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-94;

(5) Canada Industrial Relations Board. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-95;

(6) Canadian Artists and Producers Professional Relations Tribunal. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-96;

(7) Canadian Centre for Management Development. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-97;

(8) Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-98;

(9) Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-99;

(10) Canadian Food Inspection Agency. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-100;

(11) Canadian Forces Grievance Board. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-101;

(12) Canadian Grain Commission. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-102;

(13) Canadian Heritage. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-103;

(14) Canadian Human Rights Commission. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-104;

(15) Canadian Human Rights Tribunal. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-105;

(16) Canadian Institutes of Health Research. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-106;

(17) Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-107;

(18) Canadian International Development Agency. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-108;

(19) Canadian International Trade Tribunal. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-109;

(20) Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-110;

(21) Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-111;

(22) Canadian Space Agency. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-112;

(23) Canadian Transportation Agency. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-113;

(24) Citizenship and Immigration Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-114;

(25) Civil Aviation Tribunal of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-115;

(26) Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-116;

(27) Communication Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-117;

(28) Competition Tribunal. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-118;

(29) Copyright Board Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-119;

(30) Correctional Service Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-120;

(31) Department of Finance Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-121;

(32) Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-122;

(33) Department of Justice Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-123;

(34) Environment Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-124;

(35) Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-125;

(36) Fisheries and Oceans Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-126;

(37) Hazardous Materials Information Review Commission Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-127;

(38) Health Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-128;

(39) Human Resources Development Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-129;

(40) Immigration and Refugee Board. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-130;

(41) Indian and Northern Affairs Canada and Canadian Polar Commission. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-131;

(42) Indian Residential Schools Resolution Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-132;

(43) Industry Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-133;

(44) Infrastructure Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-134;

(45) Law Commission of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-135;

(46) Military Police Complaints Commission. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-136;

(47) NAFTA Secretariat, Canadian Section. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-137;

(48) National Archives of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-138;

(49) National Battlefields Commission. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-139;

(50) National Defence. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-140;

(51) National Energy Board. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-141;

(52) National Film Board. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-142;

(53) National Library of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-143;

(54) National Parole Board. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-144;

(55) National Research Council Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-145;

(56) National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-146;

(57) Natural Resources Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-147;

(58) Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-148;

(59) Northern Pipeline Agency Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-149;

(60) Office of the Auditor General of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-150;

(61) Office of the Chief Electoral Officer. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-151;

(62) Office of the Commissioner for Federal Judicial Affairs. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-152;

(63) Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-153;

(64) Office of the Correctional Investigator. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-154;

(65) Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-155;

(66) Offices of the Information and Privacy Commissioners. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-156;

(67) Parks Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-157;

(68) Patented Medicine Prices Review Board Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-158;

(69) Privy Council Office. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-159;

(70) Public Service Commission of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-160;

(71) Public Service Staff Relations Board. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-161;

(72) Public Works and Government Services Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-162;

(73) RCMP External Review Committee. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-163;

(74) Registry of the Federal Court of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-164;

(75) Royal Canadian Mounted Police. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-165;

(76) Security Intelligence Review Committee. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-166;

(77) Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-167;

(78) Solicitor General Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-168;

(79) Statistics Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-169;

(80) Status of Women Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-170;

(81) Supreme Court of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-171;

(82) Tax Court of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-172;

(83) Transport Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-173;

(84) Transportation Safety Board of Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-174;

(85) Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-175;

(86) Veterans Affairs Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-176;

(87) Western Economic Diversification Canada. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-177.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) laid upon the Table, — Document entitled “Canada's Performance 2003”. — Sessional Paper No. 8563-372-178.

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Coderre (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) laid upon the Table, — Report on the Operation of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act for the year 2003, pursuant to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, S.C. 2001, c. 27, sbs. 94(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-800-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Ms. Caplan (Minister of National Revenue) laid upon the Table, — Report of Canada Customs and Revenue Agency, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2003, pursuant to the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency Act, S.C. 1999, c. 17, sbs. 88(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-780-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Orders in Council concerning certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

— P.C. 2003-1536. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-1-13. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources)

— P.C. 2003-1535. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-3-20. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

— P.C. 2003-1527, P.C. 2003-1528 and P.C. 2003-1529. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-14-19. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)

— P.C. 2003-1537. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-8-19. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

— P.C. 2003-1531. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-4-19. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates)

— P.C. 2003-1538, P.C. 2003-1539, P.C. 2003-1540 and P.C. 2003-1541. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-18-11. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

— P.C. 2003-1526 and P.C. 2003-1546. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-16-16. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

— P.C. 2003-1545. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-22-17. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology)

— P.C. 2003-1507, P.C. 2003-1508, P.C. 2003-1509, P.C. 2003-1510, P.C. 2003-1511, P.C. 2003-1512, P.C. 2003-1513, P.C. 2003-1514, P.C. 2003-1515, P.C. 2003-1516, P.C. 2003-1517, P.C. 2003-1518, P.C. 2003-1519, P.C. 2003-1520, P.C. 2003-1521, P.C. 2003-1522, P.C. 2003-1523, P.C. 2003-1524, P.C. 2003-1525, P.C. 2003-1550, P.C. 2003-1551 and P.C. 2003-1552. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-5-17. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)

— P.C. 2003-1530. — Sessional Paper No. 8540-372-24-16. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

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Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 372-1999 and 372-2032 concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-44-15;

— No. 372-2087 concerning the protection of the environment. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-21-05;

— No. 372-2157 concerning a national child care program. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-92-02.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 51st Report of the Committee (Conflict of Interest Code for Members). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-154.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 5, 6, 8 to 13, 17, 18, 20, 21, 23, 24, 26, 27, 29, 30, 33, 55, 62 and 63) was tabled.

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Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 52nd Report of the Committee (code of conduct). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-155.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 5, 6, 8 to 13, 17, 18, 20, 21, 23, 24, 26, 27, 29, 30, 33, 55, 62 and 63) was tabled.

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Mr. Scott (Fredericton) , from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the Eighth Report of the Committee (Bill C-33, An Act to implement treaties and administrative arrangements on the international transfer of persons found guilty of criminal offences, with an amendment). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-156.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 65 and 77) was tabled.

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Mr. Scott (Fredericton) , from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the Ninth Report of the Committee (Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of children and other vulnerable persons) and the Canada Evidence Act, with amendments). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-157.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 63, 66 to 69, 71, 73, 74 and 77) was tabled.

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Mr. Williams (St. Albert) , from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 24th report of the Committee (Chapter 10 of the December 2002 Report of the Auditor General of Canada — Department of Justice: Costs of Implementing the Canadian Firearms Program). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-158.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 16, 19, 22, 28 and 44) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Spencer (Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre) , two concerning the Divorce Act (Nos. 372-2341 and 372-2342);

— by Mr. Penson (Peace River) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-2343);

— by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-2344);

— by Mr. Marceau (Charlesbourg—Jacques-Cartier) , two concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2345 and 372-2346);

— by Mr. Epp (Elk Island) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-2347);

— by Mr. Mark (Dauphin—Swan River) , two concerning national parks (Nos. 372-2348 and 372-2349), one concerning gun control (No. 372-2350) and three concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2351 to 372-2353);

— by Ms. McDonough (Halifax) , one concerning the National Missile Defence Program (No. 372-2354).

Government Orders

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Finance of Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act and the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Regulations, 1999.

Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. Knutson (Secretary of State (Central and Eastern Europe and Middle East)) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

Debate arose thereon.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), the Prime Minister laid upon the Table, — Copy of a letter from Thomas d'Aquino, President and Chief Executive, Canadian Council of Chief Executives, dated October 30, 2003 (English text only). — Sessional Paper No. 8530-372-10.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. DeVillers (Secretary of State (Physical Activity and Sport)) , — That Bill C-32, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

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The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. Knutson (Secretary of State (Central and Eastern Europe and Middle East)) , — That Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act and the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Regulations, 1999, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 Members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After eight minutes, a quorum was found.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. Knutson (Secretary of State (Central and Eastern Europe and Middle East)) , — That Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act and the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Regulations, 1999, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

Private Members' Business

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cadman (Surrey North) , seconded by Mrs. Yelich (Blackstrap) , — That Bill C-338, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (street racing), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the recorded division was deferred until Wednesday, November 5, 2003, immediately before the time provided for Private Members' Business.

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Mr. Hearn (St. John's West) , seconded by Mr. Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) , moved, — That, in the opinion of this House, the government should take immediate action to extend custodial management over the Nose and Tail of the Grand Banks and of the Flemish Cap. (Private Members' Business M-136)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

Messages from the Senate

A message was received from the Senate as follows:

— ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-45, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal liability of organizations), without amendment.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Second Report of the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development, “Sustainable Development and Environmental Assessment: Beyond Bill C-9” (Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-92), presented to the House on Thursday, June 5, 2003. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-372-92.

— by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) — Actuarial Report (including Cost Certificate) on the Pensions Plan for the Public Service of Canada, as at March 31, 2002, and certificate of assets of the Pension Plan, pursuant to the Public Pension Reporting Act, R.S. 1985, c. 13 (2nd Supp.), sbs. 9(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-221-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates)

— by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) — Actuarial Report (including Cost Certificate) on the Pension Plan for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, as at March 31, 2002, and certificate of assets of the Pension Plan, pursuant to the Public Pension Reporting Act, R.S. 1985, c. 13 (2nd Supp.), sbs. 9(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-580-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates)

— by Mr. Rock (Minister of Industry) — Report on Corporations for the year 2000, pursuant to the Corporations Returns Act, S.C. 1998, c. 26, s. 68. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-115-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology)

— by Mr. Rock (Minister of Industry) — Report of the Canada Foundation for Innovation, together with the Auditors' Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2003, pursuant to the Budget Implementation Act, 1997, S.C. 1997, c. 26, sbs. 29(3). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-116-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry, Science and Technology)

Adjournment Proceedings

At 7:19 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:39 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).