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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting No. 7

Tuesday, December 10, 2002

The Standing Committee on Public Accounts met in camera at 4:08 p.m. this day, in Room 308, West Block, the Chair, John Williams, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Robert Bertrand, John Bryden, Odina Desrochers, John Finlay, Paul Forseth, Gerald Keddy, Sophia Leung, Philip Mayfield, Val Meredith, Joe Peschisolido, Beth Phinney, Alex Shepherd and John Williams.

Acting Members present: Massimo Pacetti for Mac Harb; Alan Tonks for Shawn Murphy; Robert Lanctôt for Gilles A. Perron; Yvon Godin for Pat Martin; Raymond Simard for Robert Bertrand; Alan Tonks for Sophie Leung.

Associate Member present: Robert Lanctôt.

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch of the Library of Parliament: Brian O'Neal and Jean Dupuis, Analysts.

Witness: From the House of Commons: Rob Walsh, Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel.

With unanimous consent, it was agreed that the meeting be held in public session.

The Committee resumed consideration of the motion of Philip Mayfield

-         That this Committee call Mr. Guité back for an in camera meeting to continue his comments with this Committee and receive questions from its members.

After debate, the motion was negatived on a recorded division:

YEAS:

Paul Forseth

Philip Mayfield

Val Meredith

Odina Desrochers

Robert Lanctôt

Yvon Godin

Gerals Keddy : -- 7

NAYS:

Robert Bertrand

John Bryden

John Finlay

Massimo Pacetti

Sophia Leung

Alan Tonks

Joe Peschisolido

Beth Phinney

Alex Shepherd: -- 9

The Committee resumed consideration of the letter dated July 12, 2002 from the lawyer of Charles Guité.

Rob Walsh made a statement and answered questions.

On motion of Beth Phinney, it was agreed, - That the Committee acknowledges receiving the letter dated July 12, 2002 from the lawyer of Charles Guité and that the letter be deposited with the Clerk of the Committee.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of its future business.

It was agreed, - That the Committee hold hearings on Chapter 10 of the December 2002 Report of the Auditor General, Department of Justice – Costs of Implementing the Canadian Firearms Program and that members submit the names of possible witnesses to the Clerk of the Committee.

It was agreed, - That the Committee hold a hearing on Chapter 1 of the April 2002 Report of the Auditor General, Placing the Public’s Money Beyond Parliament’s Reach.

At 4:52 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:55 p.m., the sitting resumed in camera.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(e), the Committee commenced consideration of a draft Report on Chapter 6 (Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency - Economic Development) of the December 2001 Report of the Auditor General of Canada.

It was agreed, - That the Committee adopt the Report as the SIXTH REPORT of the Committee.

It was agreed, - That pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee request that the Government provide a comprehensive response to this Report.

It was agreed, - That the Chair be authorized to make such grammatical and editorial changes to the Report as may be necessary without changing the substance of the Report.

It was agreed, - That the Chair table the SIXTH REPORT in the House.

It was agreed, - That a Press Release be issued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(e), the Committee commenced consideration of a draft Report on Chapter 8 (Canada Customs and Revenue Agency - Managing the Risks of Non-Compliance for Commercial Shipments Entering Canada) of the December 2001 Report of the Auditor General of Canada.

It was agreed, - That the Committee adopt the Report as the SEVENTH REPORT of the Committee.

It was agreed, - That pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee request that the Government provide a comprehensive response to this Report.

It was agreed, - That the Chair be authorized to make such grammatical and editorial changes to the Report as may be necessary without changing the substance of the Report.

It was agreed, - That the Chair table the SEVENTH REPORT in the House.

It was agreed, - That a Press Release be issued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(e), the Committee commenced consideration of a draft Report on Chapter 8 - Other Audit Observations (Health Canada and Public Works and Government Services Canada) of the April 2002 Report of the Auditor General of Canada.

It was agreed, - That the Committee adopt the Report as the EIGHTH REPORT of the Committee.

It was agreed, - That pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee request that the Government provide a comprehensive response to this Report.

It was agreed, - That the Chair be authorized to make such grammatical and editorial changes to the Report as may be necessary without changing the substance of the Report.

It was agreed, - That the Chair table the EIGHTH REPORT in the House.

It was agreed, - That a Press Release be issued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(e), the Committee commenced consideration of a draft Report on a study of the Motion of Beth Phinney, M.P., dated March 19, 2002, with regard to the Government Response to the 21st Report of the Public Accounts Committee on the Canadian Human Rights Commission and the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal of February 9, 1999.

At 5:26 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Richard Rumas




Clerk of the Committee