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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting No. 2

Tuesday, November 2, 1999

The Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development met in camera at 11:30 a.m. this day, in Room 362, East Block, the Chair, Sue Barnes, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Claude Bachand, Sue Barnes, Ray Bonin, Paul DeVillers, John Finlay, Ivan Grose, Louise Hardy, David Iftody, Nancy Karetak-Lindell, Gerald Keddy, John O'Reilly, Mike Scott.

Acting Member present: Randy White for Jim Gouk.

In attendance: From the Library of Parliament: Mary Hurley, Tonina Simeone, Research Officers.

The Committee proceeded to the consideration of future business with reference to Bill C-9, the Nisga'a Final Agreement Act.

The Chair presented the First Report of the Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure, which reads as follows:

The Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure met at 9:40 a.m. this day on the subject of Bill C-9 and agreed to recommend the following:

-That the itinerary for hearings in British Columbia from November 14-20, 1999 be as follows: Terrace, Smithers, Prince George, Victoria and Vancouver;

-That the Committee authorize the Chair's assistant, the Parliamentary Secretary's assistant and one assistant from each of the opposition parties to accompany the Committee to British Columbia and that their accommodation, per diem and ground travel costs only be met by the Committee;

-That the Minister of Indian and Northern Affairs be invited to appear before the Committee on Wednesday, November 3, 1999;

-That the Nisga'a representatives be invited to appear on Thursday, November 4, 1999;

-That these meetings be televised.

-That videoconferencing be used, as necessary, for hearings in Ottawa;

-That a list of potential witnesses be presented to the Standing Committee for approval.

Respectfully submitted

 

After debate, it was agreed, -That recommendation 1-6 be adopted.

Debate arose on recommendation no.7, list of potential witnesses.

After debate, it was agreed, -That the list of potential witnesses be amended and adopted as follows:

WITNESS LIST

1. Overview

  • Hon. Robert Nault, Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development and officials from the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development

  • Chief Joseph Gosnell and members of the Nisga'a Tribal council

2. Constitutional

  • Dean Peter Hogg (Osgoode Hall)

  • Prof. Patrick Monahan (Osgoode Hall)

  • Prof. Hamar Foster Associate Dean of Law (University of Victoria)

  • Prof. Doug Sanders, Law (University of British Columbia)

  • Prof. Stephen Scott (McGill University)

  • Prof. Brad Morse (University of Ottawa)

  • Prof. Tom Flanagan (University of Alberta)

  • Gordon Gibson, Senior Fellow, Fraser Institute

3. Business

  • Brian Smith, Chair (British Columbia Hydro & Power Authority)

  • David MacLean (CN Rail)

  • Milton Wong, Vice President (HSBC Asset Management Canada Ltd.)

  • Wilson Stothert, Chairman (Vancouver Board of Trade)

  • Jerry Lampert (B.C. Business Council)

  • 4. Academics

  • Prof. Paul Tennant, Political Science (University of British Columbia)

  • Mel Smith, Q.C., Former Constitutional Adviser to B.C. Governments

  • Terry Glavin, Author

5. Economic Development

  • Robin Richardson, President, R.L. Richardson & Associates

  • Roslyn Kunin, Chief Economist, Laurier Institute

  • Prof. Rod Dobell, Public Policy, (University of Victoria)

  • Bill Robson, C.D. Howe Institute

6. First Nations

  • Representatives of the Gitksan Nation

  • Representatives of the Gitanyow Nation

  • Miles Richardson, Chief Commissioner, British Columbia Treaty Commission

  • Peter Meekason, former Attorney General of Alberta

  • National Chief Phil Fontaine, Assembly of First Nations

  • Marilyn Buffalo, President, Native Women's Association of Canada

  • B.C. Native Women's Society Representative

  • Chief Billy Diamond

  • Harry Daniels, President , Congress of Aboriginal Peoples

7. Municipal government

  • Mayor Jack Talstra, City of Terrace, B.C.

  • Mayor Jack Mussallem, City of Prince Rupert, B.C.

  • Joanne Monaghan, Chair, Kitimat, Stikine Regional District, B.C.

8. Third parties

  • Bill Young, Nass Camp B.C.

  • Mike Harcourt, Former Premier of British Columbia (NDP)

  • Margaret Piper, University of British Columbia

  • David Mitchell, Simon Fraser University

  • Mavis Gillie, LAN (aboriginal support network)

  • Gordon Campbell, leader of the British Columbia Liberal Party

  • Hon. Dale Lovick, British Columbia Minister of Aboriginal Affairs

  • Frank Barton, member of the Nisga'a Nation

  • Jim Davidson, former mayor, Smithers, B.C.

  • Deb Logan, B.C. Shell Fishing Association

  • Gary Livingstone, B.C. Mining Association

9. Natural Resources

Forestry

  • David Suzuki Foundation (David Suzuki or Jim Fulton, Executive Director)

  • Ron McDonald (President, B.C. Council of Forest Industries)

  • Prof. Peter Pearse (Univerity of British Columbia)

  • Doug Routledge, Northern Forest Products Association

  • Lorne Leech, B.C. Cattlemen's Association

  • Dale Brown, B.C. Guide Outfitters Association

Fisheries / Pêches

  • Phillip Eidsvik, Executive Director, B.C. Fisheries Survival Coalition

  • Prof. Parzival Copes, Professor of Economics Emeritus (Simon Fraser University)

  • Dr. Carl Walters, Professor of Fisheries and Zoology (University of British Columbia)

  • Karl K. English, Vice-President, LGL Limited Environmental Research Associates

  • Iona Campagnolo, Fraser Basin Council

  • Mike Hunter, former President, Fisheries Council of B.C.

  • Bill Blocker, B.C. Wildlife Federation

10. Labour organizations

  • Jim Sinclair, President, British Columbia Federation of Labour

  • Mr. Radosevic, Canadian Auto Workers

  • David Haggard, President, Industrial Wood and Allied Workers of Canada

  • Ken Georgetti, President , Canadian Labour Congress

  • Randy Dobson, Canadian Pulpworkers' Union, Kitimat, B.C.

The First Report of the Sub-Committee on Agenda and Procedure, as amended, was adopted.

Pursuant to an Order of the House "That the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development be authorized to travel to Victoria, Vancouver, Terrace, Prince George and Smithers, British Columbia, during the week of November 14 to 20, 1999 during its consideration of Bill C-9, An Act to give effect to the Nisga'a Final Agreement Act", dated Monday, November 1, 1999.

The Chair presented a travel budget in the amount of $206,563.83

It was moved, -That the budget be increased in the amount of $20,000.00 as additional contingency funds.

The question being put on the motion, it was agreed to.

The travel budget, as amended, was approved in the amount of $226,563.83

At 1:12 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Christine Fisher


Clerk of the Committee