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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 162

Wednesday, April 23, 1997

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

TABLING OF DOCUMENTS

By unanimous consent, Ms. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) laid upon the Table, -- Order in Council from the Government of Québec (1345-95) dated October 11, 1995. -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-352-40.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Discepola (Parliamentary Secretary to the Solicitor General) laid upon the Table, -- Canadian Security Intelligence Service -- 1996 Public Report. -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-352-6A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)


Mrs. Finestone (Chairman of the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities), laid upon the Table, -- Report of the recipient of the Centennial Flame Research Award for the year 1994, pursuant to the Centennial Flame Research Award Act, S.C. 1991, c. 17, sbs. 7(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-326.


Mrs. Finestone (Chairman of the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities), laid upon the Table, -- Report of the recipient of the Centennial Flame Research Award for the year 1995, pursuant to the Centennial Flame Research Award Act, S.C. 1991, c. 17, sbs. 7(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-326A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 352-1561 concerning the situation in Vietnam. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-40A;

-- Nos. 352-1715, 352-1716, 352-1717, 352-1722, 352-1724, 352-1727, 352-1735, 352-1736, 352-1737, 352-1739, 352-1740, 352-1742, 352-1746, 352-1747, 352-1748, 352-1751, 352-1752, 352-1766, 352-1771, 352-1777, 352-1781, 352-1782, 352-1783, 352-1793, 352-1796, 352-1797, 352-1804, 352-1805, 352-1813, 352-1820, 352-1824, 352-1835, 352-1843, 352-1845, 352-1854, 352-1860, 352-1864, 352-1865, 352-1866, 352-1869, 352-1870, 352-1877, 352-1889, 352-1892, 352-1893, 352-1896, 352-1902, 352-1911, 352-1914, 352-1921, 352-1922, 352-1927 concerning the highway system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-137H;

-- No. 352-1718 concerning research and development. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-136A;

-- Nos. 352-1811 and 352-1836 concerning tobacco. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-104B;

-- No. 352-1842 concerning euthanasia. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-19T;

-- No. 352-1888 concerning gasoline pricing. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-78F;

-- No. 352-1897 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-26S;

-- No. 352-1904 concerning the Divorce Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-27L;

-- No. 352-1919 concerning the tax on gasoline. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-44AA.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Ms. Cohen (Windsor -- St. Clair), from the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs, presented the 12th Report of the Committee (Victims' Bill of Rights). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-107.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issues Nos. 10 and 11 which includes this Report) was tabled.


Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 65th Report of the Committee (Members' services). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-108.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 4, which includes this Report) was tabled.


Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 9th Report of the Committee (Chapter 17 of the September 1996 Report of the Auditor General of Canada). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-109.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 3, which includes this Report) was tabled.


Mrs. Finestone (Mount Royal), from the Standing Committee on Human Rights and the Status of Persons with Disabilities, presented the 3rd Report of the Committee (Privacy: Where Do We Draw the Line?). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-110.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 5, which includes this Report) was tabled.


Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), from the Standing Committee on Finance, presented the 13th Report of the Committee (Improving World Bank Effectiveness). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-111.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issue No. 12, which includes this Report) was tabled.


Mr. Dromisky (Thunder Bay -- Atikokan), from the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration, presented the 4th Report of the Committee (Facilitating the Entry of Temporary Workers to Canada). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-352-112.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Issues Nos. 6 and 7, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Labour and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Ms. Marleau (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), Bill C-98, An Act to amend the Canada Evidence Act and the Criminal Code in respect of persons with disabilities, to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act in respect of persons with disabilities and other matters and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Collins (Souris -- Moose Mountain), seconded by Mr. Easter (Malpeque), Bill C-437, An Act to amend the Canada Transportation Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), seconded by Mrs. Guay (Laurentides), moved, -- That the 3rd Report of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented on Monday, October 28, 1996, be concurred in.

Debate arose thereon.


Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier -- Montcalm), seconded by Mrs. Guay (Laurentides), moved, -- That this House do now adjourn.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 333)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Althouse -- Asselin -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Bernier --  (Gaspé) -- Bernier --  (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Blaikie -- Bridgman -- Canuel -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Fillion -- Gagnon --  (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Godin -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harper --  (Simcoe Centre) -- Hermanson -- Johnston -- Lalonde -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Leroux --  (Shefford) -- Ménard -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Nunez -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Speaker -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- 37

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Beauce) -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown --  (Oakville -- Milton) -- Bryden -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Chan -- Collenette -- Collins -- Cowling -- Crawford -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Easter -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Frazer -- Gaffney -- Godfrey -- Graham -- Harvard -- Hayes -- Hopkins -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- LeBlanc --  (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan --  (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Morrison -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Middlesex) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Essex -- Kent) -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Scott --  (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Simmons -- Speller -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Torsney -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 101

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bergeron -- Brushett -- Cauchon -- Crête -- Culbert -- de Savoye -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Flis -- Iftody -- Jacob -- Landry -- Lefebvre -- Loubier -- Maloney -- Mercier -- Murphy -- Paré -- Richardson -- Wood

The House resumed consideraton of the motion of Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Orléans), seconded by Mrs. Guay (Laurentides), -- That the 3rd Report of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented on Monday, October 28, 1996, be concurred in.

The debate continued.

Mrs. Barnes (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of National Revenue), seconded by Mr. Campbell (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by deleting all of the words after the word ``be'' and substituting the following:

    ``referred back to the said Standing Committee for reconsideration of the dissenting reports contained therein.''

Debate arose thereon.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Item No. 1 in the order of precedence, standing in the name of Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), was called and, not having been proceeded with, in accordance of Standing Order 42(2), was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

Messages were received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-55, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (high risk offenders), the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, the Criminal Records Act, the Prisons and Reformatories Act and the Department of the Solicitor General Act, without amendment.

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-300, An Act respecting the establishment and award of a Canadian Peacekeeping Service Medal for Canadians who have served with an international peacekeeping mission, without amendment.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by the Speaker -- Report of the Chief Electoral Officer for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-352-645A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

-- by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Health) -- Report of the President of the Medical Research Council and the Lists of Grants and Awards, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Medical Research Council Act, R. S. 1985, c. M-4, sbs. 17(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-299A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

-- by Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources) -- Report to Parliament on the Administration and Enforcement of the Energy Efficiency Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Energy Efficiency Act, S.C. 1992, c. 36, s. 36. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-375. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources)

-- by Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources) -- Report on the administration of the Canada Petroleum Resources Act for the year 1996, pursuant to the Canada Petroleum Resources Act, R. S. 1985, c. 36 (2nd Supp.), s. 109. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-455C. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources)

-- by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister of Human Resources Development) -- Copy of Order in Council P.C. 1997-495, dated April 8, 1997, concerning the Agreement on Social Security between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, pursuant to the Old Age Security Act, R. S. 1985, c. O-9, sbs. 42(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-212F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

-- by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister of Human Resources Development) -- Copy of Order in Council P.C. 1997-497, dated April 8, 1997, concerning the Agreement on Social Security between Canada and the United States of America, pursuant to the Old Age Security Act, R. S. 1985, c. O-9, sbs. 42(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-212G. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

-- by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister of Human Resources Development) -- Copy of Order in Council P.C. 1997-496, dated April 8, 1997, concerning the Agreement on Social Security between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, pursuant to the Old Age Security Act, R. S. 1985, c. O-9, sbs. 42(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-212H. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

-- by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister of Human Resources Development) -- Report on Federal and Provincial Support to Post-Secondary Education in Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements and Federal Post-Secondary Education and Health Contributions Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-8, sbs. 21(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-608A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Bryden (Hamilton -- Wentworth), one concerning conscientious objection (No. 352-2202);

-- by Mr. Collins (Souris -- Moose Mountain), eight concerning the highway system (Nos. 352-2203 to 352-2210).

-- by Mr. Calder (Wellington -- Grey -- Dufferin -- Simcoe), one concerning housing policies (No. 352-2211) and one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-2212);

-- by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Middlesex), one concerning parental rights and responsibilities (No. 352-2213);

-- by Mr. McKinnon (Brandon -- Souris), one concerning police and firefighters' death benefits (No. 352-2214), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-2215) and one concerning the economy (No. 352-2216);

-- by Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West), one concerning multiculturalism (No. 352-2217);

-- by Mrs. Hayes (Port Moody -- Coquitlam), one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-2218), twelve concerning the sexual exploitation of minors (Nos. 352-2219 to 352-2230), one concerning parental rights and responsibilities (No. 352-2231) and one concerning corporal punishment (No. 352-2232).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 5:32 p.m., by unanimous consent, the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 5:48 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).