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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 120

Friday, December 13, 1996

10:00 a.m.



The Clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of the Speaker.

Thereupon, Mr. Milliken (Kingston and the Islands), Deputy Chairman of Committees of the Whole, took the Chair, pursuant to Standing Order 8.

PRAYERS

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-60, An Act to establish the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and to repeal and amend other Acts as a consequence, as reported by the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 6 (Motions Nos. 14 to 18 and 36).

Group No. 6

Motion No. 14 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-60, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 28 and 29 on page 4 with the following:

      ``12. Notwithstanding that the Agency is a separate employer under the Public Service Staff Relations Act,
      (a) section 7 and subsection 69(3) of that Act do not apply to the Agency; and
      (b) for the purposes of paragraph 92(1)(b) of that Act, the Agency is deemed to be designated pursuant to subsection 92(4) of that Act.''

Motion No. 15 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-60, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing lines 28 and 29 on page 4 with the following:

      ``12. The Agency is deemed to be included in the definition of ``federal undertaking'' in section 2 of the Canada Labour Code and that Act applies, with such modifications as the circumstances require, to the Agency and its employees.''

Motion No. 16 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-60, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 34 on page 4 with the following:

      ``13. The employees of the Agency shall be appointed pursuant to the Public Service Employment Act.''

Motion No. 17 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-60, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing lines 30 and 31 on page 4 with the following:

      ``13.(1) Subject to paragraph 12(a), the President has the authority to appoint the employees of the Agency.''

Motion No. 18 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-60, in Clause 13, be amended by adding after line 31 on page 4 the following:

      ``(1.1) One year after the Agency is established, the President shall provide, for study, to such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters, a detailed report respecting the criteria used in making appointments under subsection (1).''

Motion No. 36 of Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), -- That Bill C-60, in Clause 93, be amended by replacing lines 23 to 27 on page 29 with the following:

      ``93. (1) Subject to subsection (2), this Act, or any provision of this Act, or any provision of any Act enacted or amended by this Act, comes into force on a day or days to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council.
      (2) The Governor in Council shall not make the order referred to in subsection (1) unless it has been advised by the Minister that the Minister has prepared a Code of Conduct and Ethics to govern the appointment of employees by the Agency.''

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 6.

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motion No. 17, was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 18 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 36 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 7

Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 19, -- That Bill C-60, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing lines 30 to 34 on page 5 with the following:

      ``16. Notwithstanding section 9 of the Department of Public Works and Government Services Act, the Agency may, with the approval of the Minister,''

Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 20, -- That Bill C-60 be amended by adding after line 37 on page 5 the following new Clause:

      ``16.1 (1) Notwithstanding section 16, the Agency shall not procure goods and services, including legal services, from outside the public service of Canada unless the Agency has satisfied itself that such goods and services are not available within the public service of Canada.
      (2) Notwithstanding section 16, where goods and services, including legal services, are to be procured from outside the public service of Canada, the Agency shall, before procuring those services, call for bids for those services from the private sector.''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 7.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions: (1) No. 352-1168 concerning health care services. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-39C; (2) No. 352-1254 concerning alcoholic beverages. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-41Q; (3) No. 352-1272 concerning pornography. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-124B; (4) No. 352-1273 concerning the Divorce Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-27G; (5) No. 352-1280 concerning the Young Offenders Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-352-25N.


Mr. Irwin (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) laid upon the Table, -- Document entitled ``Indian Claims Commission: Annual Report 1995-96''. -- Sessional Paper No. 8525-352-14.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Harper (Calgary West), seconded by Mr. Speaker (Lethbridge), Bill C-365, An Act to amend an Act respecting Holidays, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), seconded by Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), Bill C-366, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (joyriding), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata), three concerning the Senate (Nos. 352-1503 to 352-1505);

-- by Mr. Peric (Cambridge), two concerning impaired driving (Nos. 352-1506 and 352-1507);

-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), three concerning sex offenders (Nos. 352-1508 to 352-1510);

-- by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), two concerning the Senate (Nos. 352-1511 and 352-1512);

-- by Mr. Bellemare (Carleton -- Gloucester), one concerning the tax on gasoline (No. 352-1513) and one concerning sexual orientation (No. 352-1514);

-- by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), one concerning the nuclear industry (No. 352-1515);

-- by Mrs. Cowling (Dauphin -- Swan River), two concerning pornography (Nos. 352-1516 and 352-1517);

-- by Mr. Nunez (Bourassa), one concerning immigration (No. 352-1518);

-- by Mr. Ramsay (Crowfoot), one concerning Constitutional amendments (No. 352-1519), three concerning government spending (Nos. 352-1520 to 352-1522), one concerning sex offenders (No. 352-1523), seven concerning sexual orientation (Nos. 352-1524 to 352-1530) and four concerning the Criminal Code (common bawdy-house) (Nos. 352-1531 to 352-1534);

-- by Mr. DeVillers (Simcoe North), one concerning the nuclear industry (No. 352-1535);

-- by Mr. Dubé (Lévis), one concerning the Senate (No. 352-1536) and one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1537);

-- by Mr. Gilmour (Comox -- Alberni), one concerning capital punishment (No. 352-1538);

-- by Ms. Whelan (Essex -- Windsor), one concerning the Canada-United States tax convention (No. 352-1539);

-- by Mr. Cummins (Delta), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1540) and one concerning taxes on books (No. 352-1541);

-- by Mr. Paré (Louis-Hébert), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1542);

-- by Mr. Finlay (Oxford), one concerning the highway system (No. 352-1543).

Questions on Order Paper

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order of the House for Return:

    Q-9 -- Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster) -- What is the total dollar amount spent on advertising by the government and its Crown Agencies in fiscal years 1991, 1992, 1993 and 1994 by province, in each of the following mediums: television, radio, daily newspapers, weekly newspapers, monthly newspapers, billboards, and direct mail?

Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-352-9.

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order of the House for Return:

    Q-16 -- Mr. Collins (Souris -- Moose Mountain) -- Regarding the amount of Federal Government (including Crown Corporations) spending on advertising in all forms of media (radio, television, daily newspapers, weekly newspapers, magazines): please specify, by type of media, and by province, where Federal Government advertising funds were allocated for the years 1992, 1993, 1994, and 1995 and what amount was spent on each medium in each of those years, in particular the amount spent on weekly newspapers, for all of Canada and broken down by province?

Mr. Zed (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-352-16.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-60, An Act to establish the Canadian Food Inspection Agency and to repeal and amend other Acts as a consequence, as reported by the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 7 (Motions Nos. 19 and 20).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 7.

The question was put on Motion No. 19 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 8

Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 24, -- That Bill C-60, in Clause 22, be amended by replacing lines 4 to 8 on page 7 with the following:

    ``corporate business plan, for study, to such committee of the House of Commons as is designated or established to consider agricultural matters for study by that committee.
      (1.1) After studying the corporate business plan, the committee referred to in subsection (1) shall either approve or reject the plan.
      (1.2) Where the corporate business plan is approved, the committee shall advise the Minister of the approval and the Minister shall table a copy of the plan in the House of Commons for approval by that House on any of the first fifteen days on which that House is sitting after the Minister is advised of the committee's approval.
      (1.3) Where a corporate business plan is laid before the House of Commons under subsection (1.2) and rejected by that House, the Agency shall not implement that plan.''

Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 25, -- That Bill C-60, in Clause 22, be amended by adding after line 8 on page 7 the following:

      ``(1.1) Before submitting its plan to the minister, the Agency shall consult
      (a) any person from the agriculture, fisheries, food processing, food distribution and public health sectors whom the Agency considers appropriate to consult;
      (b) any government of a province that has advised, in writing, the Agency of its wish to be consulted; and
      (c) the unions representing some or all of the employees of the Agency.''

Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac), seconded by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), moved Motion No. 26, -- That Bill C-60, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing line 40 on page 7 with the following:

    ``detailed statement of the assessment by''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 8.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 1:28 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Shepherd (Durham), seconded by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), -- That Bill C-214, An Act to provide for improved information on the cost of proposed government programs, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations.

The debate continued.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Marchi (Minister of the Environment) -- Report of the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1996, pursuant to the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act, S. C. 1992, c. 37, sbs. 71(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-352-391. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Proud (Hillsborough), concerning the highway system (No. 352-1544).

ADJOURNMENT

At 2:30 p.m., the Assistant Speaker adjourned the House until Monday, February 3, 1997, at 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Orders 28(2) and 24(1).