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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 080

Tuesday, June 7, 1994

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), for Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-0257 to 351-0259, 351-0265, 351-0266, 351-0279, 351-0282 to 351-0284 and 351-0292 concerning material depicting violence. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-2J.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Caccia (Davenport), from the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development, presented the 2nd Report of the Committee (Bill C-23, An Act to implement a Convention for the protection of migratory birds in Canada and the United States, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-17.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32 which includes this Report) was tabled.


Mr. Kirkby (Prince Albert -- Churchill River), from the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development, presented the 1st Report of the Committee (Bill C-16, An Act to approve, give effect to and declare valid an agreement between Her Majesty the Queen in right of Canada and the Dene of Colville Lake, Déline, Fort Good Hope and Fort Norman and the Metis of Fort Good Hope, Fort Norman and Norman Wells, as represented by the Sahtu Tribal Council, and to make related amendments to another Act, without amendment). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-18.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 7 and 8 which includes this Report) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Young (Minister of Transport), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs)), Bill C-38, An Act to provide for the security of marine transportation, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled: ``An Act to provide for the security of marine transportation''.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), seconded by Mrs. Ringuette Maltais (Madawaska -- Victoria), Bill C-256, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (transfer of income to spouse), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Crawford (Kent), concerning renewable alternative energy sources (No. 351-0364).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), seconded by Miss Grey (Beaver River), moved, -- That this House strongly affirm and support the desire of Canadians to remain federally united as one people, committed to strengthening our economy, balancing the budgets of our governments, sustaining our social services, conserving our environment, preserving our cultural heritage and diversity, protecting our lives and property, further democratizing our institutions and decision-making processes, affirming the equality and uniqueness of all our citizens and provinces, and building peaceful and productive relations with other peoples of the world.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs)), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (SaintLéonard), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by striking out all the words after the word ``Canadians to" and substituting the following:

      ``continue to live together in a federal system''.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

Debate resumed on the motion of Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), seconded by Miss Grey (Beaver River), in relation to the Business of Supply.

And on the amendment of Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs)), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Saint- Léonard).

Debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the amendment and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 50)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacLellan (Cape Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Walker -- Whelan -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 140

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Péloquin -- Ramsay -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Scott (Skeena) -- Speaker -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- White (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 87

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Collenette -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Manley -- Ménard

The House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion, as amended, -- That this House strongly affirm and support the desire of Canadians to continue living together in a federal system.

The question was put on the main motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 51)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Berger -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bodnar -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Cohen -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- de Jong -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Frazer -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gauthier (Ottawa -- Vanier) -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grose -- Grubel -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Hanrahan -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacLellan (Cape Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manning -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Scott (Skeena) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Sheridan -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Speaker -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Walker -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- White (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- Wood -- Young -- Zed -- 179

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- Debien -- de Savoye -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mercier -- Nunez -- Paré -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Péloquin -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- 49

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Collenette -- Guimond -- Jacob -- Manley -- Ménard

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:54 p.m, pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry of Bill C-233, An Act to provide for the limitation of interest rates, of the application of interest and of fees in relation to credit card accounts.

Mr. DeVillers (Simcoe North), seconded by Mr. Easter (Malpeque), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

Debate arose thereon.

By unanimous consent, the Order was discharged, the Bill withdrawn, and the subject matter referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following paper, having been deposited with the Clerk of the House, was laid upon the Table:

By Mr. Ouellet (Minister of Foreign Affairs) -- Reports of the Canadian International Development Agency required by the Access to Information and Privacy Acts for the period ended March 31, 1994, pursuant to subsections 72(2) of the Access to Information Act, Chapter A-1, and the Privacy Act, Chapter P-21, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-351-631A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Legal Affairs)

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:55 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).