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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 253

Thursday, November 2, 1995

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

At 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Goodale (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food), seconded by Mr. Robichaud (Secretary of State (Agriculture and Agri-Food, Fisheries and Oceans)), -- That Bill C-61, An Act to establish a system of administrative monetary penalties for the enforcement of the Canada Agricultural Products Act, the Feeds Act, the Fertilizers Act, the Health of Animals Act, the Meat Inspection Act, the Pest Control Products Act, the Plant Protection Act and the Seeds Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 364)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anawak -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre/Sud-Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Collins -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finestone -- Flis -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gaffney -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gallaway -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West/Ouest) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harvard -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Hubbard -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Keyes -- Kirkby -- Knutson -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- Lee -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maclaren -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest/Nord-Ouest) -- McWhinney -- Milliken -- Minna -- Murphy -- Nault -- O'Reilly -- Parrish -- Patry -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rock -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Taylor -- Telegdi -- Terrana -- Tobin -- Ur -- Vanclief -- Verran -- Walker -- Wells -- Whelan -- Wood -- Zed -- 125

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Asselin -- Bachand -- Bélisle -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Bridgman -- Brien -- Brown (Calgary Southeast/Sud-Est) -- Caron -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dubé -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Fillion -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West/Ouest) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hart -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Kerpan -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Laurin -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest/Sud-Ouest) -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nunez -- Paré -- Penson -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- Ringma -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Silye -- Solberg -- Speaker -- St-Laurent -- Strahl -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- White (Fraser Valley West/Ouest) -- White (North Vancouver) -- 76

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Bouchard -- Canuel -- Ianno -- Jacob -- Jordan -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- McGuire -- Plamondon -- Thalheimer -- Venne

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

(1) No. 351-3806 concerning the aircraft industry. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-119A;

(2) No. 351-3914 concerning national unity. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-144A.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Duhamel (St. Boniface), one concerning the tax system (No. 351-40232);

-- by Mr. Vanclief (Prince Edward -- Hastings), one concerning hormone use in livestock (No. 351-4024);

-- by Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), four concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-4025 to 351-4028);

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning the income tax system (No. 351-4029);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning the prayer in the House of Commons (No. 351-4030) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-4031);

-- by Mr. Bertrand (Pontiac -- Gatineau -- Labelle), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 351-4032).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-239 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Young (Minister of Transport), -- That Bill C-88, An Act to implement the Agreement on Internal Trade, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Monday, November 6, 1995, at 6:00 p.m.


The Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-103, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act and the Income Tax Act.

Mr. Dupuy (Minister of Heritage) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Irwin (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Health of Bill C-95, An Act to establish the Department of Health and to amend and repeal certain Acts.

Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

NAMING OF A MEMBER

Mr. Duceppe (Laurier-Sainte-Marie) was named by the Speaker for disregarding the authority of the Chair and, pursuant to Standing Order 11(1)(a), the Speaker ordered the Honourable Member to withdraw from the House for the remainder of today's sitting.

Whereupon, the Honourable Member withdrew from the House.

ORAL QUESTIONS

The House resumed Oral Questions.

NAMING OF A MEMBER

Mr. Bellehumeur (Berthier-Montcalm) was named by the Speaker for disregarding the authority of the Chair and, pursuant to Standing Order 11(1)(a), the Speaker ordered the Honourable Member to withdraw from the House for the remainder of today's sitting.

Whereupon, the Honourable Member withdrew from the House.

ORAL QUESTIONS

The House resumed Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That Bill C-95, An Act to establish the Department of Health and to amend and repeal certain Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Health.

The debate continued.

Mrs. Picard (Drummond), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

    ``this House declines to give second reading to Bill C-95, An Act to establish the Department of Health and to amend and repeal certain Acts, because the principle of the Bill does not provide for including in the Minister's powers, duties and functions, the power to award full and entire financial compensation to any province wishing to exercise fully its jurisdiction over health.''

Debate arose thereon.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. de Jong (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mr. LeBlanc (Cape Breton Highlands -- Canso), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government, on this 60th anniversary of the ``On to Ottawa'' Trek, should offer an unequivocal and official apology for the government of the day having perpetuated the following:

    (1) having caused, through the use of violence as administered by the combined police forces of the Regina City Police and the RCMP the termination of the trek in Regina, Saskatchewan on July 1, 1935, with attendant loss of life, injury and imprisonment;
    (2) having contributed to, rather than detracted from the plight of the unemployed by:
      (a) forcing many unemployed young men into work camps,
      (b) having prevented all the trekkers from coming to Ottawa to express their democratic right for better conditions in the work camps,
      (c) abrogating its responsibility of providing the necessary leadership in a time of high unemployment which would have created decent and rewarding full time employment;
    (3) displaying a total lack of policy initiatives which would have provided meaningful work and wages for the unemployed, and for the violent attack on the participants of the ``On to Ottawa'' trek. (itPrivate Members' Business M-460)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:30 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).