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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 197

Tuesday, May 9, 1995

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2415 to 351-2420, 351-2436, 351-2443 to 351-2445, 351-2450, 351-2457, 351-2460 to 351-2462, 351-2476, 351-2513, 351-2514, 351-2520 to 351-2523, 351-2535, 351-2539 and 351-2679 concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-3W.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Government House Leader in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2429 to 351-2432, 351-2455, 351-2515 to 351-2519, 351-2527, 351-2537, 351-2680 and 351-2681 concerning gun control. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-16R.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2597 concerning sexual assault. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-34G.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2658 concerning the definition of family. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-98D.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2530 concerning the aircraft industry. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-119.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Ms. McLaughlin (Yukon), two concerning breast cancer (Nos. 351-3080 and 351-3081);

-- by Mr. Duhamel (St. Boniface), one concerning radio and television programming (No. 351-3082);

-- by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay East), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-3083);

-- by Mr. White (Fraser Valley West), two concerning sexual orientation (Nos. 351-3084 and 351-3085), one concerning government spending (No. 351-3086) and two concerning abortion (Nos. 351-3087 and 351-3088);

-- by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-3089 and 351-3090) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-3091);

-- by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), one concerning the Official Opposition (No. 351-3092).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.


The Speaker having recognized another Member, pursuant to Standing Order 62, Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster), seconded by Mr. Silye (Calgary Centre), moved, -- That Mr. Harper (Calgary West) be now heard.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 211)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Althouse -- Bridgman -- Chatters -- de Jong -- Epp -- Gouk -- Grey (Beaver River) -- Grubel -- Hanrahan -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Penson -- Ringma -- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Williams -- 31

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Anawak -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bakopanos -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bélisle -- Calder -- Campbell -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Clancy -- Collins -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Debien -- Deshaies -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Fillion -- Finestone -- Flis -- Gagliano -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gerrard -- Godfrey -- Godin -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jacob -- Jordan -- Knutson -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lefebvre -- Loney -- Loubier -- MacLaren -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McLellan (Edmonton Northwest) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunez -- Ouellet -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Paré -- Patry -- Peric -- Peters -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Pillitteri -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Rideout -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robichaud -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Serré -- Simmons -- St-Laurent -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Terrana -- Thalheimer -- Tremblay (Rimouski -- Témiscouata) -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Volpe -- Walker -- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 135

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Baker -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Caccia -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Daviault -- DeVillers -- Dubé -- Finlay -- Gaffney -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Guay -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Kraft Sloan -- Landry -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- Maheu -- Marchand -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- O'Brien -- Payne -- Sauvageau -- Speller -- de Savoye


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

The debate continued.

Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That this question be now put.

Debate arose thereon.


The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the want of a quorum.

Accordingly, a count of the House was taken and there were fewer than 20 Members present.

At 12:18 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were sounded to call in the Members.

At 12:19 p.m., a quorum was found and the Speaker ordered the ringing of the bells stopped.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That this question be now put.

The debate continued.


The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the want of a quorum.

Accordingly, a count of the House was taken and there were fewer than 20 Members present.

At 12:43 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were sounded to call in the Members.

At 12:43 p.m., a quorum was found and the Speaker ordered the ringing of the bells stopped.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That this question be now put.

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. Anderson (Minister of National Revenue), -- That Bill C-85, An Act to amend the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to provide for the continuation of a certain provision, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs;

And of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), seconded by Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That this question be now put.

The debate continued.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Ms. McLaughlin (Yukon), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should provide core funding to ensure that all women diagnosed with breast cancer have access, through survivor led support groups, to information on the various treatments available in their community and local counselling services provided by peer support groups and survivors. (Private Members' Business M-376)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the time provided for consideration of Private Members' Business expired and the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1995-96 to 1999-2000 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1995- 96 of the Canadian Commercial Corporation, pursuant to subsection 125(4) of the Financial Administration Act, Chapter F-11, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-351-817A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), concerning the parole system (No. 351-3093).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:42 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).