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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 185

Thursday, April 6, 1995

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos 351-2142, 351-2150 to 351-2152, 351-2164, 351-2169, 351-2172, 351-2173, 351-2180, 351-2182, 351-2186, 351-2188, 351-2196 to 351-2199, 351-2203, 351-2204, 351-2206, 351-2213, 351-2214, 351-2266 to 351-2268, 351-2274 and 351-2292 concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-3T.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2580 to 351-2582 concerning the mining industry. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-72H.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2630 concerning a pardon for Mr. Robert Latimer. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545- 351-108B.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-2200, 351-2241, 351-2286, 351-2307, 351-2309, 351-2332, 351-2362, 351-2379, 351-2387, 351-2388, 351-2500, 351-2528, 351-2529 and 351-2534 concerning sexual orientation. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-111A.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 72nd Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

      The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following changes in the membership of Standing Committees:

-- Agriculture and Agri-Food: Jordan for Steckle.

-- Industry: Bélanger for Bryden.

-- Government Operations: Bryden for Nunziata.

-- Public Accounts: Telegdi for Crawford.

The Committee also recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, the following change in the membership of the Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages: Sheridan for Serré.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issue No. 49, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada) for Mr. Dingwall (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), Bill C-82, An Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mint Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2)
)

    His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mint Act''.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), moved, -- That the 72nd Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Gilmour (Comox -- Alberni), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2840) and one concerning capital punishment (No. 351-2841);

-- by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), one concerning the Canadian Wheat Board (No. 351-2842);

-- by Mr. Bhaduria (Markham -- Whitchurch -- Stouffville), one concerning the tax system (No. 351-2843);

-- by Mr. Hubbard (Miramichi), one concerning the unemployment insurance program (No. 351-2844);

-- by Mr. Speller (Haldimand -- Norfolk), three concerning gun control (Nos. 351-2845 to 351-2847);

-- by Miss Grey (Beaver River), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2848), one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-2849) and one concerning the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (No. 351-2850);

-- by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2851), one concerning gun control (No. 351-2852), one concerning national daycare standards (No. 351-2853) and one concerning intoxication as a defence (No. 351-2854);

-- by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), one concerning government spending (No. 351-2855);

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-2856).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-102 on the Order Paper.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order of the House for a Return:

    Q-83 -- Mr. Cummins (Delta) -- With respect to the Early Stuart and Early Summer sockeye migrations and the Steveston Field Unit of the Department of Fisheries and Oceans and each of the other such Field Units on the Fraser River system and the area covered by each such unit, for the years 1993 and 1994, (a) what were the staffing levels at each such unit and what were the staffing levels during weekends and statutory holidays during these migrations, (b) did staffing levels allow staff to be on the fishing grounds to conduct complete pre-fishing opening and post fishery clean-up patrols, (c) did staffing levels allow for pro-active patrols on a regular basis and full coverage of the native fishery during the open times, (d) what level of fishing occurred prior to the opening and the closing of the fishery, (e) what was the nature of the monitoring of the mandatory landing sites, were the mandatory landing sites monitored at all times during fishery openings on a regular basis, were there occasions when fishermen desired to land fish at a site but there were no monitored landing sites available, (f) did the monitors at the landing sites count the fish as stipulated in the Aboriginal Fisheries Agreements, (g) what was the level of catch monitoring and enforcement for Ceremonial Licences, (h) what was the level of night fishing and the level and consistency of the monitoring of such fishing and (i) what was the number of persons charged with infractions of fisheries regulations?

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-351-83. M. Milliken (secrétaire parlementaire du leader du gouvernement à la Chambre des communes) présente la réponse à cet ordre. -- Document parlementaire no 8555-351-83.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order of the House for a Return:

    Q-91 -- Mrs. Wayne (Saint John) -- For each federal riding, what has been the total amount of financial assistance provided by the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency from November 4, 1993 to date?

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-351-91.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), -- That Bill C-76, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 27, 1995, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance;

And of the amendment of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Mr. Godin (Châteauguay), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

    ``Bill C-76, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 27, 1995, be not now read a second time but that it be read a second time this day six months hence.''

The debate continued.

The question was put on the amendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45(5)(a), the recorded division was deferred until Monday, April 24, 1995, at the ordinary hour of daily ajournment.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)), -- That Bill C-69, An Act to provide for the establishment of electoral boundaries commissions and the readjustment of electoral boundaries, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Augustine (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister), moved, -- That the Sub-committee on Aboriginal Education (composed of five members) of the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development be authorized to travel to Sudbury, Manitoulin Island, Sioux Lookout and Winnipeg, from April 22 to 30, 1995, and that a staff of three do accompany the Sub-committee.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.


By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Augustine (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister), moved, -- That the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development and the necessary staff be authorized to travel to hold hearings and undertake site visits in Iqualuit, Resolute Bay, Cambridge Bay and Yellowknife between May 1 and 19, 1995.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.


By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Augustine (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister), moved, -- That a Sub-committee of the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans be authorized to travel to Vancouver, Prince Rupert, Nanaimo and Campbell River, from April 27 to May 4, 1995, to discuss Pacific salmon issues, aboriginal fishing strategy, the merger of the Department of Fisheries and Oceans and the Coast Guard, and licensing.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.


By unanimous consent, Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), moved, -- That, notwithstanding any Standing Order, the government may table its response to the 2nd Report of the Standing Joint Committee on Scrutiny of Regulations no later than June 5, 1995.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.


By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot) at second reading stage of Bill C-76, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 27, 1995, be further deferred until Tuesday, April 25, 1995, at 5:30 p.m.

PRESENTING PETITIONS

By unanimous consent, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented, pursuant to Standing Order 36, as follows:

-- by Mr. Rocheleau (Trois-Rivières), three concerning voice mail (Nos. 351-2857 to 351-2859);

-- by Mr. Ringma (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), one concerning the Canadian Armed Forces (No. 351-2860);

-- by Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), one concerning the extradition to India of Mr. Mahesh Inder Singh (No. 351-2861).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)), -- That Bill C-69, An Act to provide for the establishment of electoral boundaries commissions and the readjustment of electoral boundaries, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.


In accordance with the provisions of Standing Order 26(1), Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Glengarry -- Prescott -- Russell), moved, -- That the House continue to sit beyond the ordinary hour of daily adjournment for the purpose of consideration of Bill C-69, An Act to provide for the establishment of electoral boundaries commissions and the readjustment of electoral boundaries.

The question was put on the motion and, more than 15 Members having risen to object, pursuant to Standing 26(2), the motion was deemed withdrawn.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Ms. Blondin-Andrew (Secretary of State (Training and Youth)), -- That Bill C-69, An Act to provide for the establishment of electoral boundaries commissions and the readjustment of electoral boundaries, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. White (North Vancouver), seconded by Mr. Benoit (Vegreville), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should immediately end employment equity programs and the inclusion of employment equity requirements on employment or training forms because such requirements encourage candidate selection to be made on the basis of sex or ethnic origin rather than merit, and, as a result, foster a sense of resentment among applicants. (Private Members' Business M-372)

Debate arose thereon. Il s'élève un débat.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the time provided for consideration of Private Members' Business expired and the Order was dropped from the Order Paper. Conformément à l'article 96(1) du Règlement, la période prévue pour l'étude des Affaires émanant des députés est expirée et l'ordre est rayé du Feuilleton.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A Message was received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-53, An Act to establish the Department of Canadian Heritage and to amend and repeal certain other Acts, without amendment.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:32 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following papers, deposited with the Clerk of the House, were laid upon the Table:

-- by the Speaker -- Minutes of Proceedings of the Board of Internal Economy of the House of Commons for February 28, 1995, pursuant to Standing Order 148(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-2N.

-- by Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development) -- Report on Federal and Provincial Support to Post-Secondary Education in Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1994, pursuant to subsection 21(1) of the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements and Federal Post-Secondary Education and Health Contributions Act, Chapter F-8, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-608A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development)

-- by Mr. Dupuy (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report on the State of Parks 1994, pursuant to section 3 of the National Parks Act, Chapter 39 (4th Supp.), Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-462. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal for March 24, 1995, pursuant to section 42 of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal Act, Chapter 47 (4th Supp.), Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-572B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-2862);

-- by Mr. Proud (Hillsborough), one concerning the Canadian Armed Forces (No. 351-2863);

-- by Mrs. Barnes (London West), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2864).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:44 p.m., the House adjourned until Monday, April 24, 1995, at 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Order made Thursday, March 30, 1995, and Standing Orders 28(2) and 24(1).