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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 167

Wednesday, March 15, 1995

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1926, 351-1927, 351-1933, 351-1935, 351-1938 to 351-1940, 351-1956, 351-1958 to 351-1962, 351-1970, 351-1975, 351-1977, 351-1978, 351-1980, 351-1984 and 351-1988 concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-3N.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Government House Leader in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government response, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petition No. 351-2102 concerning radio and television programming. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-25F.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to petitions Nos. 351-1972 and 351-1986 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-351-30V.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Peric (Cambridge), seconded by Mr. Reed (Halton -- Peel), Bill C-316, An Act to amend the Immigration Act and the Transfer of Offenders Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

scPresenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. St. Denis (Algoma), two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-2443 and 351-2444);

-- by Mr. Shepherd (Durham), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2445);

-- by Mr. Chatters (Athabasca), one concerning the Divorce Act (No. 351-2446) and one concerning government spending (No. 351-2447);

-- by Mr. Bachand (Saint-Jean), one concerning voice mail (No. 351-2448);

-- by Mr. Riis (Kamloops), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-2449);

-- by Mr. Iftody (Provencher), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2450) and one concerning gun control (No. 351-2451);

-- by Mr. Hart (Okanagan -- Similkameen -- Merritt), one concerning government spending (No. 351-2452), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2453), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-2454) and one concerning gun control (No. 351-2455);

-- by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2456) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2457);

-- by Mr. Robinson (Burnaby -- Kingsway), one concerning Chinese Canadians (No. 351-2458) and one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2459);

-- by Mr. Ianno (Trinity -- Spadina), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2460);

-- by Mr. Jackson (Bruce -- Grey), two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-2461 and 351-2462), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2463) and one concerning abortion (No. 351-2464);

-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley East), eight concerning government spending (Nos. 351-2465 to 351-2472);

-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-2473);

-- by Mr. Nunziata (York South -- Weston), one concerning the situation in Sri Lanka (No. 351-2474) and one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-2475);

-- by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2476), one concerning gun control (No. 351-2477) and one concerning government spending (No. 351-2478);

-- by Mr. O'Reilly (Victoria -- Haliburton), three concerning gun control (Nos. 351-2479 to 351-2481);

-- by Mr. Pagtakhan (Winnipeg North), two concerning euthanasia (Nos. 351-2482 and 351-2483);

-- by Mrs. Ablonczy (Calgary North), one concerning government spending (No. 351-2484).

MOTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 53, Mr. Massé (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), seconded by Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Labour), moved, -- That the forty-eight hours' notice be waived in order to permit the Minister of Labour to immediately introduce a Bill entitled ``An Act respecting the supervision of longshoring and related operations at west coast ports''; and

That the House not adjourn this day except pursuant to a motion by a Minister of the Crown.

The question was put on the motion and, fewer than ten Members having risen to object, pursuant to Standing Order 53(4), the motion was adopted.

INTRODUCTION OF GOVERNMENT BILLS

Pursuant to Order made earlier today on motion of Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Labour), seconded by Mr. Massé (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), and pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), Bill C-74, An Act respecting the supervision of longshoring and related operations at west coast ports, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading later this day.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

    His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled ``An Act respecting the supervision of longshoring and related operations at west coast ports''.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada), -- That this House approves in general the budgetary policy of the Government. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 20)

The debate continued.

MOTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 78(1), Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Massé (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), moved, -- That Bill C-74, An Act respecting the supervision of longshoring and related operations at west coast ports, be disposed of at all stages during the present sitting, as follows:

1. Debate at second reading shall be limited to no more than eighty minutes;

2. Upon being read a second time, the Bill shall be referred to a Committee of the Whole, which shall report the Bill after no more than sixty minutes of consideration;

3. Immediately upon being concurred in at the report stage, the said Bill shall be considered at the third reading stage wherein debate shall be limited to no more than forty minutes;

4. At the end of the time periods described in this Order, the Speaker or the Chair of the Committee of the Whole, as the case may be, shall interrupt debate and forthwith put all questions necessary to dispose of the stage then under consideration;

5. No recorded division may be deferred and, when any recorded division is requested, the bells shall be sounded for not more than fifteen minutes.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada), -- That this House approves in general the budgetary policy of the Government. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 20)

The debate continued.

At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 84(6), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 167)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anawak -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- DeVillers -- Dingwall -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gerrard -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harper (Churchill) -- Hickey -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Maheu -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- Nunziata -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Ouellet -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rock -- Rompkey -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Shepherd -- Simmons -- Skoke -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- Young -- Zed -- 142

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bernier (Beauce) -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chatters -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Epp -- Fillion -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Gilmour -- Godin -- Grubel -- Guay -- Hanger -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jacob -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Langlois -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Lefebvre -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Ménard -- Picard (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Pomerleau -- Ramsay -- Riis -- Ringma -- Robinson -- Schmidt -- Scott (Skeena) -- Silye -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speaker -- St-Laurent -- Strahl -- Taylor -- Thompson -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- Venne -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- 81

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Barnes -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Chan -- Comuzzi -- Daviault -- Gaffney -- Godfrey -- Guimond -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Keyes -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- MacLaren -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Nunez -- Paré -- Patry -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Terrana


By unanimous consent, the Order was read for the consideration of a Ways and Means motion relating to certain measures announced in the February 1995 Budget (Sessional Paper No. 8570-351-25), notice of which was laid upon the Table on Tuesday, March 14, 1995. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 25)

Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons and Solicitor General of Canada), moved, -- That the motion be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.


Pursuant to Order made earlier today, the Order was read for the second reading and reference to a Committee of the Whole of Bill C-74, An Act respecting the supervision of longshoring and related operations at west coast ports.

Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Labour), seconded by Mr. Massé (President of the Queen's Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 168)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Adams -- Alcock -- Allmand -- Anderson -- Arseneault -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bethel -- Bevilacqua -- Bhaduria -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Boudria -- Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bridgman -- Brown (Calgary Southeast) -- Brown (Oakville -- Milton) -- Brushett -- Bryden -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Caccia -- Calder -- Campbell -- Cannis -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chatters -- Clancy -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Cowling -- Crawford -- Culbert -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Duhamel -- Dupuy -- Easter -- Eggleton -- English -- Epp -- Fewchuk -- Finlay -- Flis -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Frazer -- Gagliano -- Gagnon (Bonaventure -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine) -- Gerrard -- Gilmour -- Graham -- Gray (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Harper (Calgary West) -- Harper (Churchill) -- Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- Harris -- Hayes -- Hermanson -- Hickey -- Hill (Macleod) -- Hill (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Hopkins -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Irwin -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Kerpan -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul) -- LeBlanc (Cape/Cap-Breton Highlands -- Canso) -- Lincoln -- Loney -- MacAulay -- MacDonald -- MacLellan (Cape/Cap-Breton -- The Sydneys) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Martin (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Mayfield -- McClelland (Edmonton Southwest) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKinnon -- McTeague -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murphy -- Murray -- Nault -- O'Brien -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Payne -- Peric -- Peters -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard (Essex -- Kent) -- Proud -- Ramsay -- Reed -- Regan -- Richardson -- Ringma -- Ringuette-Maltais -- Robillard -- Rock -- Schmidt -- Scott (Fredericton -- York -- Sunbury) -- Silye -- Simmons -- Skoke -- Solberg -- Speaker -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart (Brant) -- Stewart (Northumberland) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thalheimer -- Thompson -- Tobin -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Volpe -- Walker -- Wappel -- Wells -- Whelan -- White (Fraser Valley West) -- Zed -- 165

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Asselin -- Axworthy (Saskatoon -- Clark's Crossing) -- Bachand -- Bellehumeur -- Bernier (Gaspé) -- Blaikie -- Bélisle -- Canuel -- Caron -- Chrétien (Frontenac) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Debien -- de Jong -- Deshaies -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Fillion -- Gagnon (Québec) -- Gauthier (Roberval) -- Godin -- Guay -- Jacob -- Laurin -- Lavigne (Beauharnois -- Salaberry) -- Lebel -- Leroux (Shefford) -- Loubier -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Picard (Drummond) -- Pomerleau -- St-Laurent -- Tremblay (Rosemont) -- 34

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Barnes -- Bergeron -- Bernier (Mégantic -- Compton -- Stanstead) -- Bouchard -- Brien -- Chan -- Comuzzi -- Daviault -- Gaffney -- Godfrey -- Guimond -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Keyes -- Lalonde -- Landry -- Leblanc (Longueuil) -- Leroux (Richmond -- Wolfe) -- MacLaren -- McWhinney -- Mercier -- Nunez -- Paré -- Patry -- Rideout -- Robichaud -- Rocheleau -- Terrana

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole.

The Committee considered the Bill and reported it without amendment.

Pursuant to Order made earlier today, Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Labour), seconded by Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage.

Pursuant to Order made earlier today, the Order was read for the third reading of Bill C-74, An Act respecting the supervision of longshoring and related operations at west coast ports.

Mrs. Robillard (Minister of Labour), seconded by Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

MOTIONS

Pursuant to Order made earlier today, Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), moved, -- That this House do now adjourn.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

ADJOURNMENT

At 10:09 p.m., the House adjourned until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).