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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
35TH PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 159

Friday, February 24, 1995

10:00 a.m.



The Clerk informed the House of the absence of the Speaker.

Mr. Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast), Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees of the Whole, took the Chair, pursuant to subsection 43(1) of the Parliament of Canada Act.

PRAYERS

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs of Bill C-69, An Act to provide for the establishment of electoral boundaries commissions and the readjustment of electoral boundaries.

Pursuant to Standing Order 68(7), Mr. Gagliano (Secretary of State (Parliamentary Affairs) and Deputy Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Gray (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Eggleton (President of the Treasury Board and Minister responsible for Infrastructure), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.

Pursuant to Order made Wednesday, February 22, 1995, Members made statements.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Order made Wednesday, February 22, 1995, it was deemed agreed to on division.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), -- That Bill C-37, An Act to amend the Young Offenders Act and the Criminal Code, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health) laid upon the Table, -- Interim Report of the Commission of Inquiry on the Blood System in Canada, together with appendices. -- Sessional Paper No. 8530-351-29.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Kilgour (Deputy Speaker and Chairman of Committees of the Whole) presented a report of the Standing Committee of the Conference of Commonwealth Speakers and Presiding Officers, held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, from January 5 to 7, 1995. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-351-56.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Peterson (Willowdale), from the Standing Committee on Finance, presented the 12th Report of the Committee (Taxation of Family Trusts). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-351-82.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings and Evidence (Issues Nos. 51 to 56, 95, 99, 100 and 101, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada) for Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources), seconded by Mrs. Stewart (Secretary of State (Latin America and Africa)), Bill C-71, An Act to amend the Explosives Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Human Resources Development and Minister of Western Economic Diversification), Bill C-72, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (self-induced intoxication), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lincoln (Lachine -- Lac-Saint-Louis), seconded by Mr. Valeri (Lincoln), Bill C-310, An Act to provide resumption of operations of Archer Daniel Midland Ltd, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Zed (Fundy -- Royal), seconded by Mr. White (North Vancouver), Bill C-311, An Act to require the Minister for International Trade to retaliate against import restrictions introduced by the United States of America on Canadian refined sugar and sugar-containing products, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Discepola (Vaudreuil), seconded by Mr. Bertrand (Pontiac -- Gatineau -- Labelle), Bill C-312, An Act to provide for the resumption of operations at ADM Agri-Industries Ltd., was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lavigne (Verdun -- Saint-Paul), seconded by Mr. Bertrand (Pontiac -- Gatineau -- Labelle), Bill C-313, An Act to provide for the resumption and continuance of the operations at ADM Agri-Industries Ltd., was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est), one concerning housing policies (No. 351-2165);

-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-2166);

-- by Ms. Meredith (Surrey -- White Rock -- South Langley), two concerning government spending (Nos. 351-2167 and 351-2168) and one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2169);

-- by Mr. Bellemare (Carleton -- Gloucester), one concerning intoxication as a defence (No. 351-2170), one concerning abortion (No. 351-2171), two concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (Nos. 351-2172 and 351-2173), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2174) and one concerning the Young Offenders Act (No. 351-2175);

-- by Mr. Hart (Okanagan -- Similkameen -- Merritt), one concerning the tax system (No. 351-2176) and two concerning government spending (Nos. 351-2177 and 351-2178);

-- by Mr. Frazer (Saanich -- Gulf Islands), one concerning government spending (No. 351-2179);

-- by Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2180).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-86, Q-104 and Q-110 on the Order Paper.

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order of the House for a Return:

    Q-21 -- Mr. Harper (Simcoe Centre) -- What are the Departmental and Ministerial guidelines that the Minister of Transport uses in the determination of awarding a specific international air route to a specific Canadian airline?

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-351-21.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order of the House for a Return:

    Q-85 -- Mr. Cummins (Delta) -- In regard to Dr. Paul LeBlond, Joe Scimger, Dr. Dick Routledge and David Brander-Smith (members of the Independent Review Board inquiring into the government's management and enforcement effort on the Fraser River), (a) what departmental advisory committees (including the Pacific Salmon Commission) do these individuals sit on or have sat on since 1980, (b) what work, papers, reports, or the like have been or are being undertaken by these individuals, their firms, or their respective university departments on behalf of federal departments, and their agencies (including the Pacific Salmon Commission) since 1980, (c) what submissions or proposals have been submitted by these individuals, their firms, or their university departments in 1993 or 1994 to government departments, and their agencies (including the Pacific Salmon Commission) that have been approved, turned down, deferred, or have yet to be fully considered, (d) what is the amount of payment that these individuals, their firms, or their university departments have received from the Federal Crown, and its agencies (including the Pacific Salmon Commission) since 1980, (e) what remuneration will these individuals receive for their participation on the Independent Review Board?

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-351-85.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order of the House for a Return:

    Q-93 -- Mr. Marchand (Québec-Est) -- What contracts for services, supplies and leasing have been awarded by Public Works and Government Services since October 25, 1993, in all federal constituencies in Quebec, and what federal government properties are located in those same constituencies?

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-351-93.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), the following question was made an Order of the House for a Return:

    Q-124 -- Mr. Hermanson (Kindersley -- Lloydminster) -- With regard to regional ministerial offices, for every year since 1988, (a) what is the number of regional offices, (b) where are these offices located and (c) for each office (i) what was the date of opening, (ii) what was the date of closure (if applicable), (iii) how many persons are/were employed by each office, (iv) what is/was the budget of each office, (v) what proportion of that budget was spent, (vi) what percentage of these funds were spent on office administration, salaries, capital costs, outside contracts and hospitality, and (vii) what are the guidelines under which these expenditures are made?

Mr. Milliken (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the Return to this Order. -- Sessional Paper No. 8555-351-124.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Peters (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)), -- That Bill C-37, An Act to amend the Young Offenders Act and the Criminal Code, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 1:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Scott (Skeena), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should initiate an amendment to section 7 of the Constitution Act, 1982, to recognize the right of the individual to enjoyment of property and the right not to be deprived thereof except in accordance with the principles of fundamental justice. (Private Members' Business M-301)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the time provided for consideration of Private Members' Business expired and the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), the following papers, deposited with the Clerk of the House, were laid upon the Table:

-- By Ms. Marleau (Minister of Health) -- Report on the administration and operation of the Canada Health Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1994, pursuant to section 23 of the Canada Health Act, Chapter C-6, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-458A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Health)

-- By Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Fifteenth Actuarial Report of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions on the Canada Pension Plan dated December 31, 1993, pursuant to section 58 of the Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Federal Court Act, Chapter 30 (2nd Supp.), Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-83. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

-- By Ms. McLellan (Minister of Natural Resources) -- Report on the fiscal equalization offset payments and the determination of per capita fiscal capacity and the Canada-Nova Scotia Develop ment Fund for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1994, pursuant to sections 231 and 238 of the Canada-Nova Scotia Offshore Petroleum Resources Accord Implementation Act, Chapter 28, Statutes of Canada, 1988. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-448A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources)

-- By Mr. Young (Minister of Transport) -- Report of the Canadian Coast Guard (Ship Safety) on exemptions issued to Masters, Mates and Engineers for the year 1994, pursuant to subsection 132(2) of the Canada Shipping Act, Chapter S-9, Revised Statutes of Canada, 1985. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-351-239A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mrs. Brown (Calgary Southeast), one concerning the parole system (No. 351-2181);

-- by Mr. Bertrand (Pontiac -- Gatineau -- Labelle), one concerning the Canadian Human Rights Act (No. 351-2182);

-- by Mr. Crête (Kamouraska -- Rivière-du-Loup), one concerning voice mail (No. 351-2183);

-- by Mr. Dhaliwal (Vancouver South), one concerning euthanasia (No. 351-2184).

ADJOURNMENT

At 2:30 p.m., the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until Monday at 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).