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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 93
Thursday, February 8, 2024, 8:15 a.m. to 10:15 a.m.
Heath MacDonald, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Sabrina Charland, Articling Student
• Alexsandra Ferland, Analyst
• Moly Robichaud, Law Intern
• John de Boer, Senior Director, Government Affairs and Public Policy, Canada
Canadian Cyber Threat Exchange
• Jennifer Quaid, Executive Director
Canada Energy Regulator
• Chris Loewen, Executive Vice-President, Regulatory
• Christopher Finley, Director, Emergency Management and Security
Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission
• Steven Harroun, Chief Compliance and Enforcement Officer
• Anthony McIntyre, General Counsel and Deputy Executive Director, Legal Services
• Leila Wright, Executive Director, Telecommunications
Electricity Canada
• Francis Bradley, President and Chief Executive Officer
Pursuant to the order of reference of Monday, March 27, 2023, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-26, An Act respecting cyber security, amending the Telecommunications Act and making consequential amendments to other Acts.

John de Boer, Jennifer Quaid et Francis Bradley made statements.


Dane Lloyd moved, —

That the committee report to the House its acknowledgment that convening a National Summit of politicians and insiders to discuss auto theft will not prevent such theft. It also recognizes that preventing auto theft falls squarely under the federal responsibility of the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA), the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), Transport Canada, and Public Safety Canada; and,

That the committee recommend to the House that the government:

A) Immediately reverse changes to Bill C-5, which allows car-stealing criminals to be on house arrest instead of serving jail time.

B) Strengthen Criminal Code provisions to ensure that repeat car-stealing criminals remain in jail.

C) Provide CBSA and our ports with the necessary resources to prevent stolen cars from leaving the country.


Debate arose thereon.

A point of order was raised as to the procedural acceptability of the proposed motion.

At 8:39 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 8:43 a.m., the sitting resumed.


The Chair ruled the motion admissible.

Whereupon, Peter Schiefke appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was overturned on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Larry Brock, Dane Lloyd, Glen Motz, Christine Normandin, Doug Shipley — 5;

NAYS: Chris Bittle, Iqwinder Gaheer, Mark Gerretsen, Peter Julian, Ron McKinnon, Peter Schiefke — 6.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 9:19 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 9:27 a.m., the sitting resumed.

Chris Loewen and Leila Writh made statements and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

At 10:15 a.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Simon Larouche
Clerk of the committee