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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 92
Thursday, April 11, 2024, 3:34 p.m. to 4:28 p.m.
Televised
Presiding
George Chahal, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Dancella Boyi, Legislative Clerk
• Émilie Thivierge, Legislative Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Sarah Dodsworth, Analyst
Department of Justice
• Jean-Nicolas Bustros, Counsel
• Jean-François Roman, Legal Counsel
Department of Natural Resources
• Abigail Lixfeld, Senior Director, Renewable and Electrical Energy Division, Energy Systems Sector
• Annette Tobin, Director, Offshore Management Division, Fuels Sector
• Lauren Knowles, Deputy Director
• Cheryl McNeil, Deputy Director
• Daniel Morin, Senior Legislative and Policy Advisor, Renewable and Electrical Energy Division
Pursuant to the order of reference of Tuesday, October 17, 2023, the committee resumed consideration of Bill C-49, An Act to amend the Canada—Newfoundland and Labrador Atlantic Accord Implementation Act and the Canada-Nova Scotia Offshore Petroleum Resources Accord Implementation Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts.

The witnesses answered questions.

The committee resumed its clause-by-clause study of the Bill.

The committee resumed clause-by-clause consideration on Clause 221 of the Bill.

On Clause 221,

Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-49, in Clause 221, be amended by

(a) replacing line 1 on page 182 with the following:

“221 (1) Subject to subsections (2) to (6), the”

(b) replacing line 5 on page 182 with the following:

“(2) Sections 2, 3 and 210 to 213, paragraphs 214(1)(a) to (e) and (g) to (i), subsection 214(2) and paragraphs 215(a) and (c) come into force on”

(c) adding after line 7 on page 182 the following:

“(2.1) Subsections 47(6.1), 61(2) and 62(2) and section 62.1 come into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council, but that day must not be before the day on which both subsection 62(1) and section 62.2 are in force.”

(d) replacing line 8 on page 182 with the following:

“(3) Sections 108 and 109 and paragraphs 216(1)(a) to (e) and (g) and (h), subsection 216(2) and paragraphs 217(a), (b) and (d) come into force”

(e) adding after line 10 on page 182 the following:

“(4) Subsections 156(6.1), 169(2) and 170(2) and section 170.1 come into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council, but that day must not be before the day on which both subsection 170(1) and section 170.2 are in force.

(5) Paragraphs 214(1)(f) and 215(b) come into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council, but that day must not be before the day on which section 2, subsection 62(1) and section 62.2 are all in force.

(6) Paragraphs 216(1)(f) and 217(c) come into force on a day to be fixed by order of the Governor in Council, but that day must not be before the day on which section 108, subsection 170(1) and section 170.2 are all in force.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara — 10;

NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.

Clause 221, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara — 10;

NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.

By unanimous consent, the committee reverted to Clause 147 previously stood.

On Clause 147,

The committee resumed consideration of the amendment of Shannon Stubbs, as amended on Thursday, March 21, 2024, which read as follows:

That Bill C-49, in Clause 147, be amended by adding after line 27 on page 107 the following:

“(c) during the submerged land licence issuance process, importance shall be given to the consideration of effects on fishing activities.”

Jeremy Patzer moved, — That Motion CPC-12, as amended, proposing to amend Clause 147 of Bill C-49 by adding paragraph (c) after line 27 on page 107, be amended by replacing “the consideration of effects on fishing activities” with the following:

“considering the effects of the proposed work or activity on fishing activities and to understanding and maintaining the environmental characteristics of the offshore area that support that industry”

At 3:47 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 3:50 p.m., the sitting resumed.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Jeremy Patzer and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer — 4;

NAYS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 7.

The question was put on the amendment of Shannon Stubbs, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Clause 147, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara — 10;

NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.

By unanimous consent, Clause 38 previously carried, as amended, was reconsidered.

On Clause 38,

Julie Dabrusin moved, — That Bill C-49, in Clause 38, be amended by replacing the paragraph (c) that was added by Motion No. CPC-7 with the following:

“(c) during the submerged land licence issuance process, importance shall be given to the consideration of effects on fishing activities.”

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Julie Dabrusin and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

Clause 38, as amended, carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara — 10;

NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.

The Title carried on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The Bill, as amended, was adopted on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer, Francesco Sorbara — 10;

NAYS: Mario Simard — 1.

It was agreed – That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

ORDERED, — That the Chair report the Bill, as amended, to the House.

It was agreed – That Bill C-49, as amended, be reprinted for the use of the House of Commons at report stage on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Annie Koutrakis, Viviane Lapointe, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

ORDERED, — That Bill C-49, as amended, be reprinted for the use of the House of Commons at report stage.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

It was agreed, — That members submit their lists of suggested witnesses concerning the study of Canada’s electricity grid and network no later than Monday, April 22, 2024.

It was agreed, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee invite the Minister of Energy and Natural Resources to appear on the subject matter of Supplementary Estimates (C), 2023‑24.

Motion

Larry Maguire moved, —  Given that:

(a) the Liberal Newfoundland and Labrador premier has called on the federal government to spike its 23% carbon tax hike in a letter to the Prime Minister, saying, “I am now asking Ottawa to pause its planned increase to the carbon tax, set for Monday, April 1, 2024, as the high cost of living is enough of a burden on families”; and

(b) according to the Parliamentary Budget Officer, the Prime Minister’s carbon tax will cost Newfoundland and Labrador families over $1,300 per year now that the carbon tax has quadrupled, while nearly one third of Newfoundland and Labrador currently lives in energy poverty;

The committee report to the House that it calls on the Liberal government to immediately withdraw the 23% carbon tax increase that it imposed on Canadians on Monday, April 1, 2024.

Debate arose.

Motion

Charlie Angus moved, — That the committee do now adjourn.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: John Aldag, Charlie Angus, Julie Dabrusin, Yvonne Jones, Viviane Lapointe, Mario Simard, Francesco Sorbara — 7;

NAYS: Earl Dreeshen, Ted Falk, Larry Maguire, Jeremy Patzer — 4.

At 4:28 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Alexandre Vassiliev
Clerk of the committee