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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 22
Friday, July 15, 2022, 10:01 a.m. to 11:53 a.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Ali Ehsassi (Liberal)

• James Bezan for Marty Morantz (Conservative)
• Viviane Lapointe for Hon. Hedy Fry (Liberal)
• Hon. John McKay for Sameer Zuberi (Liberal)
• Ron McKinnon for Randeep Sarai (Liberal)
• Terry Sheehan for Sameer Zuberi (Liberal)
Library of Parliament
• Allison Goody, Analyst
• Colin Sawatzky, Analyst
Pursuant to Standing Order 106(4), the committee commenced consideration of the request by four members of the committee to undertake a study of Exports of Russian Turbines.

Motion

Heather McPherson moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Foreign Affairs and International Development Committee undertake a study to examine the government’s decision to circumvent Canadian sanctions to allow the export of Gazprom turbines; that this study consist of no fewer than five meetings; that the Minister of Natural Resources and Minister of Foreign Affairs appear before the committee, along with officials from their respective departments, no later than July 22nd , 2022; that representatives from the Ukrainian Canadian Congress and the Ambassador of Ukraine to Canada be invited to appear before the committee; and that committee members submit lists of additional witnesses by July 19th , 2022.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Robert Oliphant moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “that this study consist of no fewer than five meetings”.

Debate arose thereon.

Subamendment

Stéphane Bergeron moved, — That the amendment be amended by replacing the words “that this study consist of no fewer than five meetings” with the following “that the committee determine the number of meetings required to carry out this study”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Stéphane Bergeron and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Stéphane Bergeron, James Bezan, Michael D. Chong, Garnett Genuis, Viviane Lapointe, John McKay, Ron McKinnon, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Francesco Sorbara — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

It was agreed, — That the amendment of Robert Oliphant, as amended, be adopted.

The debate on the motion, as amended, continued.

Amendment

Robert Oliphant moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “no later than July 22nd, 2022” with the following “as soon as possible”.

Debate arose thereon.

It was agreed, — That the amendment be amended by adding after the words “no later than July 22nd, 2022” the following: “based on availability, noting the urgency of the situation”.

The question was put on the amendment of Robert Oliphant, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Stéphane Bergeron, James Bezan, Michael D. Chong, Garnett Genuis, Viviane Lapointe, John McKay, Ron McKinnon, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Francesco Sorbara — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The debate on the motion, as amended, continued.

Amendment

Robert Oliphant moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the words “the Ambassador of Ukraine to Canada” the following: “the Ambassador of Germany to Canada and the Ambassador of the European Union to Canada”.

Debate arose thereon.

Subamendment

Michael D. Chong moved, — That the amendment be amended by adding after the words “the Ambassador of Germany to Canada and the Ambassador of the European Union to Canada” the following: “That other witnesses be invited, including the Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, the Ukrainian foreign minister, the Ukrainian World Congress, Balkan Devlen, Thierry Bros, and Marcus Kolga”.

After debate, the question was put on the subamendment of Michael D. Chong and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, James Bezan, Michael D. Chong, Garnett Genuis — 4;

NAYS: Stéphane Bergeron, Viviane Lapointe, Ron McKinnon, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Terry Sheehan, Francesco Sorbara — 7.

The question was put on the amendment of Robert Oliphant and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Stéphane Bergeron, James Bezan, Michael D. Chong, Garnett Genuis, Viviane Lapointe, Ron McKinnon, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Terry Sheehan, Francesco Sorbara — 10;

NAYS: Ziad Aboultaif — 1.

The debate on the motion, as amended, continued.

Amendment

Robert Oliphant moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “and that committee members submit lists of additional witnesses by July 19th, 2022”.

Debate arose thereon.

By unanimous consent, the amendment was withdrawn.

The debate on the motion, as amended, continued.

Amendment

Michael D. Chong moved, — That the motion be amended by deleting the words “by July 19, 2022”.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Michael D. Chong and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Stéphane Bergeron, James Bezan, Michael D. Chong, Garnett Genuis, Viviane Lapointe, Ron McKinnon, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Terry Sheehan, Francesco Sorbara — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Ziad Aboultaif, Stéphane Bergeron, James Bezan, Michael D. Chong, Garnett Genuis, Viviane Lapointe, Ron McKinnon, Heather McPherson, Robert Oliphant, Terry Sheehan, Francesco Sorbara — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Development undertake a study to examine the government’s decision to circumvent Canadian sanctions to allow the export of Gazprom turbines; that the committee determines the number of meetings required to carry out this study; that the Minister of Natural Resources and Minister of Foreign Affairs appear before the committee, along with officials from their respective departments, no later than July 22nd, 2022 based on availability, noting the urgency of the situation; that representatives from the Ukrainian Canadian Congress, the Ambassador of Ukraine to Canada, Ambassador of Germany to Canada, Ambassador of the European Union to Canada be invited to appear before the committee; and that committee members submit lists of additional witnesses.

At 11:53 a.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Stephanie Bond
Committee clerk