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Minutes of Proceedings

44th Parliament, 1st Session
Meeting 75
Thursday, December 7, 2023, 3:37 p.m. to 5:32 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Emmanuel Dubourg, Chair (Liberal)

Library of Parliament
• Jean-Rodrigue Paré, Analyst
Department of National Defence
• Shoba Ranganathan, Director, Programs and Services, Sexual Misconduct Support Centre
• Linda Rizzo Michelin, Chief Operating Officer, Sexual Misconduct Support Centre
• Col Peter Rowe, Director, Casualty Support Management
Department of Veterans Affairs
• Dr. Cyd Courchesne, Chief Medical Officer
• Pamela Harrison, Senior Director, Engagement and Events
• Amy Meunier, Assistant Deputy Minister, Commemoration and Public Affairs Branch
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 3, 2022, the committee resumed its study of the experience of women Veterans.

Amy Meunier, Peter Rowe and Linda Rizzo Michelin made statements and, with Cyd Courchesne, Pamela Harrison and Shoba Ranganathan, answered questions.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

Motion

Blake Richards moved, — That the committee resume consideration of his motion which read as follows:

That, in relation to its study on the National Monument to Canada’s Mission in Afghanistan, the Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs

(a) invite the Deputy Commander of Military Personnel, Lieutenant-General Lise Bourgon, to appear before the Committee on or before December 7, 2023; and

(b) order the production of all memoranda, briefing notes, e-mails, correspondence or any other records of conversations or communications (including text messages, Microsoft Teams messages, WhatsApp messages, Signal messages or other electronic messaging), with regard to the National Monument to Canada’s Mission in Afghanistan, transmitted, since August 1, 2019, between

(i) the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Office of the Minister of Veterans Affairs,

(ii) the Department of Canadian Heritage and the Office of the Minister of Canadian Heritage,

(iii) the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Privy Council Office,

(iv) the Department of Canadian Heritage and the Privy Council Office,

(v) the Privy Council Office and the Office of the Prime Minister,

(vi) the Office of the Minister of Veterans Affairs and the Office of the Prime Minister, and

(vii) the Office of the Minister of Canadian Heritage and the Office of the Prime Minister, provided that these documents shall be provided to the Clerk of the Committee, in both official languages and without redaction, no later than December 13, 2023.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Terry Dowdall, Blake Richards, Fraser Tolmie, Cathay Wagantall — 4;

NAYS: Carolyn Bennett, Rachel Blaney, Sean Casey, Luc Desilets, Bryan May, Wilson Miao, Randeep Sarai — 7.

Department of National Defence
• Shoba Ranganathan, Director, Programs and Services, Sexual Misconduct Support Centre
• Linda Rizzo Michelin, Chief Operating Officer, Sexual Misconduct Support Centre
• Col Peter Rowe, Director, Casualty Support Management
Department of Veterans Affairs
• Dr. Cyd Courchesne, Chief Medical Officer
• Pamela Harrison, Senior Director, Engagement and Events
• Amy Meunier, Assistant Deputy Minister, Commemoration and Public Affairs Branch
Pursuant to Standing Order 108(2) and the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 3, 2022, the committee resumed its study of the experience of women Veterans.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 4:20 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 115(5), it was agreed that the committeecontinue to sit.

Questioning of the witnesses resumed.

At 5:32 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Alexandre (Sacha) Vassiliev
Clerk of the committee