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Minutes of Proceedings

Standing Committee on Public Accounts (PACP)

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session

Meeting 34

Thursday, May 27, 2021, 11:03 a.m. to 1:04 p.m.

Room 025-B, West Block

Televised

Presiding

Kelly Block, Chair (Conservative)

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Members of the Committee present

Liberal

Conservative

NDP

Matthew Green

Acting Members present

• Tony Van Bynen for Lloyd Longfield (Liberal)

• Julie Vignola for Maxime Blanchette-Joncas (Bloc Québécois)

Associate Members present

• Rachael Harder (Conservative)

In attendance

Library of Parliament

• André Léonard, Analyst

• Dillan Theckedath, Analyst

Report 1, Procuring Complex Information Technology Solutions, of the 2021 Reports of the Auditor General of Canada

Witnesses

Department of Employment and Social Development

• Graham Flack, Deputy Minister, Employment and Social Development

• Benoît Long, Chief Transformation Officer

Department of Public Works and Government Services

• Bill Matthews, Deputy Minister

• Lorenzo Ieraci, Acting Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Procurement

Office of the Auditor General

• Karen Hogan, Auditor General of Canada

• Carol McCalla, Principal

• Joanna Murphy, Director

Shared Services Canada

• Paul Glover, President

• Stéphane Cousineau, Senior Assistant Deputy Minister, Corporate Services

Treasury Board Secretariat

• Roch Huppé, Comptroller General of Canada

• Marc Brouillard, Acting Chief Information Officer of Canada

• Stéphanie Poliquin, Assistant Deputy Minister, People Management Systems and Processes Sector

• Samantha Tattersall, Assistant Comptroller General, Acquired Services and Assets

Pursuant to Standing Order 108(3)(g) and the motion adopted on Tuesday, March 23, 2021, the committee commenced consideration of Report 1, Procuring Complex Information Technology Solutions, of the 2021 Reports of the Auditor General of Canada, referred to the committee on Thursday, February 25, 2021.

Karen Hogan, Graham Flack, Bill Matthews, Paul Glover and Roch Huppé made statements and, with Benoit Long, Joanna Murphy, Marc Brouillard and Stéphanie Poliquin, answered questions.

At 1:04 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Angela Crandall

Clerk of the Committee