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Minutes of Proceedings
The Chair presented the First, Report from the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure, which read as follows:
Your Subcommittee met on Monday, October 26, 2020, to consider the business of the committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:
1. That the committee invite the President of the Treasury Board, the Minister of Public Services and Procurement, and the Minister of Digital Government to appear as part of its study of the Main Estimates, 2020-21.
2. That the committee undertake a study of the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2020-21 and invite the President of the Treasury Board, the Minister of Public Services and Procurement, and the Minister of Digital Government to appear.
3. That, in the context of its studies on the Main Estimates, 2020-21 and the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2020-21, the Chair be given discretion to schedule the appearance of the ministers.
4. That the Committee requests that the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer undertake a costing analysis of building the Canadian Surface Combatants and building the FREMM, the Type 31e and other possible competing ships and that the report containing this analysis be presented to the Chair of the Committee by Sunday, November 22nd, 2020.
5. That, in the context of its study of the Nuctech security equipment contract, members of the committee submit their witnesses electronically to the clerk of the committee and that the Chair, in conjunction with the clerk and analysts, prepare a work plan for the consideration of the committee.
6. That the committee devote at least three meetings to its study of the government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic and that members of the committee submit their witnesses electronically to the clerk of the committee.
It was agreed: — That paragraph 4 be amended by replacing “Sunday, November 22, 2020” with the following: “Friday, November 20, 2020”.
It was agreed: — That paragraph 5 be amended by adding, after the words “clerk of the committee” with the following: “, no later than Friday, November 6, 2020 at 5:00 p.m. ET,”.
It was agreed: — That paragraph 6 be amended by adding, after the words “clerk of the committee” the following: “, no later than Friday, November 6, 2020 at 5:00 p.m. ET”.
It was agreed, — That the First Report from the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure, as amended, which read as follows, be concurred in:
Your subcommittee met on Monday, October 26, 2020, to consider the business of the committee and agreed to make the following recommendations:
1. That the committee invite the President of the Treasury Board, the Minister of Public Services and Procurement, and the Minister of Digital Government to appear as part of its study of the Main Estimates, 2020-21.
2. That the committee undertake a study of the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2020-21 and invite the President of the Treasury Board, the Minister of Public Services and Procurement, and the Minister of Digital Government to appear.
3. That, in the context of its studies on the Main Estimates, 2020-21 and the Supplementary Estimates (B), 2020-21, the Chair be given discretion to schedule the appearance of the ministers.
4. That the Committee requests that the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer undertake a costing analysis of building the Canadian Surface Combatants and building the FREMM, the Type 31e and other possible competing ships and that the report containing this analysis be presented to the Chair of the Committee by Friday, November 20, 2020.
5. That, in the context of its study of the Nuctech security equipment contract, members of the committee submit their witnesses electronically to the clerk of the committee, no later than Friday, November 6, 2020 at 5:00 p.m. ET, and that the Chair, in conjunction with the clerk and analysts, prepare a work plan for the consideration of the committee.
6. That the committee devote at least three meetings to its study of the government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic and that members of the committee submit their witnesses electronically to the clerk of the committee, no later than Friday, November 6, 2020 at 5:00 p.m. ET.
Matthew Green moved, — That, in the context of its study of the government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic and pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee send for all briefing notes, memos and emails from senior officials, prepared for the Minister of Health, the President of the Public Health Agency of Canada, the Chief Medical Health Officer of Canada, and the Minister of Public Service and Procurement between 2010 and Monday, August 31, 2020, regarding the stockpiling, management, disposal and replenishment of medical equipment and supplies in the National Emergency Strategic Stockpile; that the committee receive the information no later than Tuesday, December 1, 2020; that matters of Cabinet confidence and national security be excluded from the request; and that any redactions to protect the privacy of Canadian citizens and permanent residents whose names and personal information may be included in the documents, as well as public servants who have been providing assistance on this matter, be made by the Office of the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel of the House of Commons and that these documents be posted on the committee’s web page.
The question was put on the motion and the result of the vote was announced:
YEAS: Matthew Green, Dane Lloyd, Kelly McCauley, Pierre Paul-Hus, Julie Vignola — 5;
NAYS: Francis Drouin, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Steven MacKinnon, Patrick Weiler — 5.
Whereupon, the Chair voted in the affirmative.
Accordingly, the motion was agreed to.
Matthew Green moved, — That, in the context of its study of the government’s response to the COVID-19 pandemic and pursuant to Standing Order 108(1)(a), the committee send for documents from Public Service and Procurement Canada (PSPC) containing the following disaggregated data related to businesses owned by under-represented groups (black, indigenous, women, and persons with disabilities) who have engaged with PSPC with regard to the federal government’s response to COVID-19: (a) (i) how many companies from under-represented groups have secured contracts with PSPC, (ii) the value of these contracts, (iii) the number of businesses from under-represented groups screened and approved as credited vendors, (iv) number and value of set aside contracts for these businesses, (v) the number of sub-contracts entered into; (b), that the committee send for all papers and records, in unredacted form, from Employment and Social Development Canada (“ESDC”) relating to the Federal Contractors Program, and in particular: (i) all current, signed Agreements to Implement Employment Equity (“Agreements”); (ii) the most current list of contractors covered by said Agreements; (iii) the most current compliance documentation furnished by each contractor covered by an Agreement, including the goalsetting report, achievement table, workforce analysis, revised goals for remaining gaps in representation, and any explanatory material; (iv) the most current documentation of ESDC’s compliance assessment for each contractor covered by an Agreement; (v) the most recent Limited Eligibility to Bid List; (vi) all documentation filed in an appeal of a finding of noncompliance by a contractor to the Minister; (vii) all documentation connected to an independent review of an appeal; (viii) any documentation internal to ESDC assessing or evaluating the Federal Contractors Program; that the committee receive these documents, papers and records no later than Tuesday, December 1, 2020; that departments tasked with gathering and releasing the following documents do their assessment and vetting as would be done through the access to information process; and that these documents be posted on the committee’s web page.
Irek Kusmierczyk moved, — That the motion be amended by adding, after the words “committee’s web page” the following:
“, and, that pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee conduct, at minimum, a six-meeting study on businesses owned by under-represented groups, black, indigenous, women and persons with disabilities in their ability to procure from the Government of Canada before and during COVID-19, and that the committee reports its findings to the House by Sunday, May 30, 2021”.
At 5:39 p.m., the sitting was suspended.
At 5:44 p.m., the sitting resumed.
RULING BY THE CHAIR
The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible as it introduced a new proposition which should be the subject of a substantive motion.
Whereupon, Francis Drouin appealed the decision of the Chair.
The question: "Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?" was put and the decision was sustained on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Matthew Green, Dane Lloyd, Kelly McCauley, Pierre Paul-Hus, Julie Vignola — 5;
NAYS: Francis Drouin, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Steven MacKinnon, Patrick Weiler — 5.
Accordingly, the Chair's decision was sustained.
The debate on the motion continued.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Francis Drouin, Matthew Green, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Dane Lloyd, Steven MacKinnon, Kelly McCauley, Pierre Paul-Hus, Julie Vignola, Patrick Weiler — 10;
NAYS: — 0.
Irek Kusmierczyk moved, — That pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee conduct a, at minimum, six-meeting study on businesses owned by under-represented groups, black, indigenous, women and persons with disabilities, and their ability to procure from the government of Canada before and during COVID-19, and that the committee report its findings to the House by no later than Sunday, May 30, 2021.
Kelly McCauley moved, — That the debate be now adjourned.
The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Dane Lloyd, Kelly McCauley, Pierre Paul-Hus, Julie Vignola — 4;
NAYS: Francis Drouin, Matthew Green, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Steven MacKinnon, Patrick Weiler — 6.
The debate on the motion continued.
The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:
YEAS: Francis Drouin, Matthew Green, Majid Jowhari, Irek Kusmierczyk, Dane Lloyd, Steven MacKinnon, Kelly McCauley, Pierre Paul-Hus, Julie Vignola, Patrick Weiler — 10;
NAYS: — 0.
On motion of Dane Lloyd, it was agreed, — That the committee do now adjourn.
At 6:14 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.