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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 14
Tuesday, February 9, 2021, 2:31 p.m. to 3:58 p.m.
Webcast
Presiding
Karen McCrimmon, Chair (Liberal)

House of Commons
• Leif-Erik Aune, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Marie Dumont, Analyst
• Anne-Marie Therrien-Tremblay, Analyst
Pursuant to Standing Order 106(4), the committee commenced consideration of the request by four members of the committee to undertake a study of allegations of sexual misconduct on the part of retired General Jonathan Vance during and before his tenure as Chief of Defence Staff of the Canadian Armed Forces.

Motion

James Bezan moved, — That the Standing Committee on National Defence begin an immediate study into the allegations of sexual misconduct on the part of retired General Jonathan Vance during and before his tenure as Chief of Defence Staff of the Canadian Armed Forces, that at least five meetings be held in public for no fewer than two hours each, that the meetings take place before February 26th, 2021, that the following witnesses be called to testify individually before the committee: Hon. Harjit Sajjan, Minister of National Defence, the Deputy Clerk of the Privy Council, Christyne Tremblay, Deputy Minister of National Defence, Jody Thomas, Zita Astravas, Michael Wernick, and any other witnesses the committee deems necessary, that these meetings be televised, and that the committee report its findings to the House.

At 2:42 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 2:55 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Amendment

Anita Vandenbeld moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “at least five meetings” with the words “three meetings” and by deleting the words "the Deputy Clerk of the Privy Council, Christyne Tremblay, Deputy Minister of National Defence, Jody Thomas, Zita Astravas, Michael Wernick".

The question was put on the amendment of Anita Vandenbeld and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Larry Bagnell, Yvan Baker, Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe, Marie-France Lalonde, Sven Spengemann, Anita Vandenbeld — 6;

NAYS: Bob Benzen, James Bezan, Terry Dowdall, Cheryl Gallant, Randall Garrison — 5.

The question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Larry Bagnell, Yvan Baker, Bob Benzen, James Bezan, Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe, Terry Dowdall, Cheryl Gallant, Randall Garrison, Marie-France Lalonde, Sven Spengemann, Anita Vandenbeld — 11;

NAYS: — 0.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the Standing Committee on National Defence begin an immediate study into the allegations of sexual misconduct on the part of retired General Jonathan Vance during and before his tenure as Chief of Defence Staff of the Canadian Armed Forces, that three meetings be held in public for no fewer than two hours each, that the meetings take place before February 26th, 2021, that the following witness be called to testify individually before the committee: Hon. Harjit Sajjan, Minister of National Defence, and any other witnesses the committee deems necessary, that these meetings be televised, and that the committee report its findings to the House.

Motion

Randall Garrison moved, — That the House of Commons Standing Committee on National Defence invite former Member of Parliament Jason Kenney to provide testimony for our study of allegations of sexual misconduct on the part of retired General Jonathan Vance during and before his tenure as Chief of Defence Staff of the Canadian Armed Forces as the Minister of Defence who originally appointed General Vance as Chief of Defence Staff and to inform the committee of how similar allegations were handled at the time of his appointment and immediately thereafter.

Amendment

James Bezan moved, — That the motion be amended by adding after the word “thereafter”, the following: “and also call the Deputy Clerk of the Privy Council Christyne Tremblay, the Deputy Minister of National Defence Jody Thomas, Zita Astravas and Michael Wernick”.

RULING BY THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled the proposed amendment inadmissible.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Larry Bagnell, Yvan Baker, Alexis Brunelle-Duceppe, Randall Garrison, Marie-France Lalonde, Sven Spengemann, Anita Vandenbeld — 7;

NAYS: — 0.

At 3:58 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Wassim Bouanani
Clerk of the Committee