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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 1
Thursday, October 8, 2020, 11:03 a.m. to 1:02 p.m.
Webcast

House of Commons
• Evelyn Lukyniuk, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Alison Clegg, Analyst
• Natacha Kramski, Analyst
• Ross Linden-Fraser, Analyst
Pursuant to Standing Order 106(1), the committee met for the purpose of electing a chair. Pursuant to Standing Order 106(2), the clerk of the committee presided over the election of a chair.

On motion of Dan Albas, it was agreed, — That Yasmin Ratansi be elected Chair of the committee.

Yasmin Ratansi took the Chair.

Pursuant to Standing Order 106(2), the clerk of the committee presided over the election of vice-chairs.

On motion of Yvan Baker, it was agreed, — That Dan Albas be elected First Vice-Chair of the committee.

On motion of Peter Schiefke, it was agreed, — That Monique Pauzé be elected Second Vice-Chair of the committee.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

On motion of Lloyd Longfield, it was agreed, — That the committee retain, as needed and at the discretion of the Chair, the services of one or more analysts from the Library of Parliament to assist it in its work.

Motion

Lloyd Longfield moved, — That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be established and be composed of five members, namely the Chair and one member from each recognized party; and that the subcommittee work in a spirit of collaboration.

Motion

Dan Albas moved, — That the motion be deleted from the list of Routine Motions.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Dan Albas, Joël Godin, Matt Jeneroux, Brad Redekopp — 4;

NAYS: Yvan Baker, Laurel Collins, Lloyd Longfield, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Peter Schiefke, Sameer Zuberi — 7.

The question was put on the motion of Mr. Longfield and it was agreed to.

Motion

Lloyd Longfield moved, — That the Chair be authorized to hold meetings to receive evidence and to have that evidence printed when a quorum is not present, provided that at least four members are present, including one member of the opposition and one member of the government, but when travelling outside the Parliamentary Precinct, that the meeting begin after fifteen minutes, regardless of members present.

Amendment

Laurel Collins moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “including one member of the opposition and one member of the government” with the words “including two members of the opposition and two members of the government”.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Laurel Collins and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Dan Albas, Laurel Collins, Joël Godin, Matt Jeneroux, Monique Pauzé, Brad Redekopp — 6;

NAYS: Yvan Baker, Lloyd Longfield, Raj Saini, Peter Schiefke, Sameer Zuberi — 5.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That the Chair be authorized to hold meetings to receive evidence and to have that evidence printed when a quorum is not present, provided that at least four members are present, including two members of the opposition and two members of the government, but when travelling outside the Parliamentary Precinct, that the meeting begin after fifteen minutes, regardless of members present.

Motion

Lloyd Longfield moved, — That witnesses be given ten minutes for their opening statement; that, at the discretion of the Chair, during the questioning of witnesses, there be allocated six minutes for the first questioner of each party as follows: Round 1: Conservative Party, Liberal Party, Bloc Québécois, New Democratic Party;

For the second and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party, five minutes; Liberal Party, five minutes; Conservative Party, five minutes; Liberal Party, five minutes; Bloc Québécois, two and a half minutes; New Democratic Party, two and a half minutes.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Monique Pauzé moved, — That the motion be modified by replacing the words “ten minutes” with the words “five minutes”.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Monique Pauzé and it was agreed to.

Amendment

Laurel Collins moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the second paragraph as follows “For the second and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party, five minutes; Liberal Party, five minutes; Bloc Québécois, two and a half minutes; New Democratic Party, two and a half minutes; Conservative Party, five minutes; Liberal Party, five minutes”.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Laurel Collins and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Dan Albas, Laurel Collins, Joël Godin, Matt Jeneroux, Monique Pauzé, Brad Redekopp — 6;

NAYS: Yvan Baker, Lloyd Longfield, Raj Saini, Peter Schiefke, Sameer Zuberi — 5.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That witnesses be given five minutes for their opening statement; that, at the discretion of the Chair, during the questioning of witnesses, there be allocated six minutes for the first questioner of each party as follows: Round 1: Conservative Party, Liberal Party, Bloc Québécois, New Democratic Party;

For the second and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party, five minutes; Liberal Party, five minutes; Bloc Québécois, two and a half minutes; New Democratic Party, two and a half minutes; Conservative Party, five minutes; Liberal Party, five minutes.

By unanimous consent, on motion of Lloyd Longfield, it was agreed, — That the following routine motions be adopted:

That only the clerk of the committee be authorized to distribute documents to members of the committee and only when such documents exist in both official languages, and that witnesses be advised accordingly.

That the clerk of the committee be authorized to make the necessary arrangements to provide working meals for the committee and its subcommittees.

That, if requested, reasonable travel, accommodation and living expenses be reimbursed to witnesses not exceeding two representatives per organization; provided that, in exceptional circumstances, payment for more representatives be made at the discretion of the Chair.

That, unless otherwise ordered, each committee member be allowed to have one staff member at an in camera meeting and that one additional person from each House officer's office be allowed to be present.

That one copy of the transcript of each in camera meeting be kept in the committee clerk's office for consultation by members of the committee or by their staff.

That 48 hours' notice, interpreted as two nights, shall be required for any substantive motion to be considered by the committee, unless the substantive motion relates directly to business then under consideration, provided that

(1) the notice be filed with the clerk of the committee no later than 4:00 p.m. from Monday to Friday; that

(2) the motion be distributed to members in both official languages by the clerk on the same day the said notice was transmitted if it was received no later than the deadline hour; and that

(3) notices received after the deadline hour or on non-business days be deemed to have been received during the next business day and that when the committee is travelling on official business, no substantive motions may be moved.

That, in relation to Orders of Reference from the House respecting Bills,

(a) the clerk of the committee shall, upon the committee receiving such an Order of Reference, write to each member who is not a member of a caucus represented on the committee to invite those members to file with the clerk of the committee, in both official languages, any amendments to the Bill which is the subject of the said Order which they would suggest that the committee consider;

(b) suggested amendments filed, pursuant to paragraph (a), at least 48 hours prior of the start of clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill to which the amendments relate shall be deemed to be proposed during the said consideration, provided that the committee may, by motion, vary this deadline in respect of a given Bill, and

(c) during the clause-by-clause consideration of a Bill, the Chair shall allow a member who filed suggested amendments, pursuant to paragraph (a), an opportunity to make brief representations in support of them.

Motion

Raj Saini moved, — That pursuant to Standing Order 81(4) and the Order of Reference of Wednesday, September 30, 2020, the committee consider the Main Estimates and invite the Minister of Environment and Climate Change for one hour and senior officials for two hours to appear in view of this study.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Dan Albas moved, — That the motion be amended by adding the words “before November 6th of this year” after the words "this study".

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Albas and it was agreed to on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Dan Albas, Laurel Collins, Joël Godin, Matt Jeneroux, Monique Pauzé, Brad Redekopp — 6;

NAYS: Yvan Baker, Lloyd Longfield, Raj Saini, Peter Schiefke, Sameer Zuberi — 5.

After debate, the question was put on the motion, as amended, and it was agreed to.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That pursuant to Standing Order 81(4) and the Order of Reference of Wednesday, September 30, 2020, the committee consider the Main Estimates 2020-21 and invite the Minister of Environment and Climate Change for one hour and senior officials for two hours to appear in view of this study before November 6th of this year.

Motion

Monique Pauzé moved, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108(2), the committee undertake a study in connection with the desire, expressed in the Speech from the Throne, to put in place a plan that will make it possible to surpass Canada's climate objectives and that to do so, the committee examine the feasibility of zero-emission federal legislation, that a report be presented to the House of Commons and that four meetings be devoted to it.

Debate arose thereon.

Amendment

Dan Albas moved, — That, after the word "legislation," insert the words “and have witnesses starting with the Minister of Environment and Climate Change as well as other pertinent witnesses”.

Debate arose thereon.

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Dan Albas and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Dan Albas, Joël Godin, Matt Jeneroux, Brad Redekopp — 4;

NAYS: Yvan Baker, Laurel Collins, Lloyd Longfield, Monique Pauzé, Raj Saini, Peter Schiefke, Sameer Zuberi — 7.

The debate continued on the main motion.

Amendment

Laurel Collins moved, — That the motion be modified by adding the word "vehicles" after the words "zero emission".

Debate arose thereon.

At 1:02 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Alexandre Roger
Clerk of the Committee