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Minutes of Proceedings

43rd Parliament, 2nd Session
Meeting 1
Wednesday, October 14, 2020, 3:30 p.m. to 4:56 p.m.
Webcast

House of Commons
• Jolène Savoie-Day, Procedural Clerk
 
Library of Parliament
• Anne-Marie Therrien-Tremblay, Advisor
• Bashar Abu Taleb, Analyst
• Offah Obale, Analyst
Pursuant to the Order adopted by the House of Commons on Wednesday, September 23, 2020, the committee met for the purpose of electing a chair.

Pursuant to Standing Order 106(2), the clerk of the committee presided over the election of a chair.

On motion of Sukh Dhaliwal, it was agreed, — That Judy A. Sgro be elected Chair of the committee.

Judy A. Sgro took the Chair.

Pursuant to Standing Order 106(2), the clerk of the committee presided over the election of vice-chairs.

On motion of Randy Hoback, it was agreed, — That Tracy Gray be elected First Vice-Chair of the committee.

On motion of Rachel Bendayan, it was agreed, — That Simon-Pierre Savard-Tremblay be elected Second Vice-Chair of the committee.

The committee proceeded to the consideration of matters related to committee business.

By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — that the following motions be adopted:

  • That the committee retain, as needed and at the discretion of the Chair, the services of one or more analysts from the Library of Parliament to assist it in its work.
  • That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be established and composed of five (5) members; the Chair, one member from each recognized Party; and that the Subcommittee work in the spirit of collaboration.
  • That the Chair be authorized to hold meetings to receive evidence and to have that evidence printed when a quorum is not present, provided that at least four (4) members are present, including two members of the opposition and two members of the government, but when travelling outside the parliamentary precinct, that the meeting begin after fifteen (15) minutes, regardless of members present.
  • That the clerk of the committee be authorized to distribute documents to members of the committee only when the documents are available in both official languages and that witnesses be advised accordingly.
  • That the clerk of the committee be authorized to make the necessary arrangements to provide working meals for the committee and its subcommittees.
  • That, if requested, reasonable travel, accommodation and living expenses be reimbursed to witnesses not exceeding two (2) representatives per organization; provided that, in exceptional circumstances, payment for more representatives be made at the discretion of the Chair.
  • That, unless otherwise ordered, each committee member be allowed to have one staff member at an in camera meeting and that one additional person from each House officer’s office be allowed to be present.
  • That one copy of the transcript of each in camera meeting be kept in the committee clerk’s office for consultation by members of the committee or by their staff.
  • That a forty-eight (48) hours’ notice, interpreted as two (2) nights, shall be required for any substantive motion to be considered by the committee, unless the substantive motion relates directly to business then under consideration, provided that (1) the notice be filed with the clerk of the committee no later than 4:00 p.m. from Monday to Friday; that (2) the motion be distributed to members in both official languages by the clerk on the same day the said notice was transmitted if it was received no later than the deadline hour; and that (3) notices received after the deadline hour or on non-business days be deemed to have been received during the next business day and that when the committee is travelling on official business, no substantive motions may be moved.
  • That, in relation to Orders of Reference from the House respecting Bills, (a) the clerk of the committee shall, upon the committee receiving such an Order of Reference, write to each member who is not a member of a caucus represented on the committee to invite those members to file with the clerk of the committee, in both official languages, any amendments to the Bill, which is the subject of the said Order, which they would suggest that the committee consider; (b) suggested amendments filed, pursuant to paragraph (a), at least 48 hours prior to the start of clause-by-clause consideration of the Bill to which the amendments relate shall be deemed to be proposed during the said consideration, provided that the committee may, by motion, vary this deadline in respect of a given Bill; and (c) during the clause-by-clause consideration of a Bill, the Chair shall allow a member who filed suggested amendments, pursuant to paragraph (a), an opportunity to make brief representations in support of them.
  • That whenever a minister appears before the committee, every effort should be made in order for the meeting to be televised.
  • That a member of Parliament who is not a member of a caucus represented on the committee and who seeks the right to speak during the questioning of witnesses ask a committee member beforehand to share that member’s speaking time, and that the committee member inform the Chair before witnesses are questioned that they intend to share their time with the member who is not a member of a caucus represented on the committee; and that the Chair write to the members of Parliament who are not members of a caucus represented on the committee to inform them of this process.
Motion

Rachel Bendayan moved, — That witnesses be given ten (10) minutes for their opening statement; that, at the discretion of the Chair, during the questioning of witnesses, there be allocated six (6) minutes for the first questioner of each party as follows: Conservative Party, Liberal Party, Bloc Québécois, New Democratic Party; for the second and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party, five (5) minutes, Liberal Party, five (5) minutes, Conservative Party, five (5) minutes, Liberal Party, five (5) minutes, Bloc Québécois, two and a half (2.5) minutes, New Democratic Party, two and a half (2.5) minutes.

Amendment

Daniel Blaikie moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the words “for the second and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party, five (5) minutes, Liberal Party, five (5) minutes, Conservative Party, five (5) minutes, Liberal Party, five (5) minutes, Bloc Québécois, two and a half (2.5) minutes, New Democratic Party, two and a half (2.5) minutes” with the words “for the second and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party, five (5) minutes, Liberal Party, five (5) minutes, Bloc Québécois, two and a half (2.5) minutes, New Democratic Party, two and a half (2.5) minutes, Conservative Party, five (5) minutes, Liberal Party, five (5) minutes”.

The question was put on the amendment of Daniel Blaikie and it was agreed to.

Amendment

Sukh Dhaliwal moved, — That the motion be amended by replacing the word "ten (10)" with the word "five (5)".

After debate, the question was put on the amendment of Sukh Dhaliwal and it was negatived on the following recorded division:

YEAS: Chandra Arya, Rachel Bendayan, Sukh Dhaliwal, Randeep Sarai, Terry Sheehan — 5;

NAYS: Ziad Aboultaif, Daniel Blaikie, Tracy Gray, Randy Hoback, Ben Lobb, Simon-Pierre Savard-Tremblay — 6.

It was agreed, — That the motion moved by Rachel Bendayan, as amended, be carried.

The motion, as amended, read as follows:

That witnesses be given ten (10) minutes for their opening statement; that, at the discretion of the Chair, during the questioning of witnesses, there be allocated six (6) minutes for the first questioner of each party as follows: Conservative Party, Liberal Party, Bloc Québécois, New Democratic Party; for the second and subsequent rounds, the order and time for questioning be as follows: Conservative Party, five (5) minutes, Liberal Party, five (5) minutes, Bloc Québécois, two and a half (2.5) minutes, New Democratic Party, two and a half (2.5) minutes, Conservative Party, five (5) minutes, Liberal Party, five (5) minutes.

Motion

Sukh Dhaliwal moved, — That the committee may meet in camera only for the following purposes:

a) to consider a draft report,

b) to attend briefings concerning national security,

c) to consider lists of witnesses,

d) or any other reason that needs unanimous consent of the committee;

That all votes taken in camera with the exception of votes regarding the consideration of draft reports be recorded in the minutes of proceedings, including how each member votes when recorded voted are requested;

That any motion to sit in camera is debatable and amendable.

At 4:02 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:05 p.m., the sitting resumed.

The committee resumed consideration of the motion moved by Sukh Dhaliwal.

Debate arose thereon.

It was agreed, — That debate on the motion moved by Sukh Dhaliwal be now adjourned to the next meeting.

At 4:56 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.



Christine Lafrance
Clerk of the Committee