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Meeting No. 8
Wednesday, November 24, 2004

The Standing Committee on Justice, Human Rights, Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness met at 3:32 p.m. this day, in Room 306 West Block, the Chair, Paul DeVillers, presiding.


Members of the Committee present: Garry Breitkreuz, Joe Comartin, Hon. Roy Cullen, Hon. Paul DeVillers, Hon. Paul Harold Macklin, John Maloney, Anita Neville, Myron Thompson, Vic Toews and Mark Warawa.


Acting Members present: Stéphane Bergeron for Diane Bourgeois, Peter MacKay for Vic Toews, Peter MacKay for Mark Warawa and Serge Ménard for Richard Marceau.


In attendance: Library of Parliament: Robin MacKay, Analyst; Philip Rosen, Analyst.


Appearing: Hon. Anne McLellan, Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness.


Witnesses: Department of the Solicitor General (Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness): Margaret Bloodworth, Deputy Minister. Canada Firearms Centre: Bill Baker, Commissioner. National Parole Board: Ian Glen, Chairperson. Correctional Service Canada: Don Head, Acting Commissioner. Canada Border Services Agency: Alain Jolicoeur, President. Canadian Security Intelligence Service: Dale Neufeld, Acting Director. Royal Canadian Mounted Police: Giuliano Zaccardelli, Commissioner.

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(4), the Committee commenced consideration of the Main Estimates 2004-2005: Votes 1, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65, 70 and 75 under SOLICITOR GENERAL (Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness) referred to the Committee on Friday, October 8, 2004.

The Minister made a statement and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.


At 5:33 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 5:38 p.m., the sitting resumed in camera.


Two (2) notices of motion were given by Garry Breitkreuz


It was agreed, — To discuss the first motion of Garry Breitkreuz.


At 5:50 p.m., by unanimous consent, it was agreed, - That the Committee proceed to sit in public.


Garry Breitkreuz moved, — That Vote 20 for the Department of the Solicitor General (Public Safety and emergency Preparedness) for the Canadian Firearms Centre in the amount of $82,080,000 be reduced by $20,000,000.

Debate arose thereon.


At 6:16 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:22 p.m., the sitting resumed.


By unanimous consent, it was agreed, — That consideration of the motion be postponed until 5:30 p.m. on Monday, November 29, 2004.


On motion of Joe Comartin, it was agreed, — That, pursuant to Standing Order 108, there be established a Subcommittee on Solicitation laws, as defined in the Criminal Code, composed of five (5) members, including a Chair from the government, to be named by the Committee and one member from each of the recognized parties in the House; that the Subcommittee have all of the powers of the Committee under Standing Order 108(1)(a), except the power to report directly to the House.


At 6:24 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.


Diane Diotte
Clerk of the Committee

2005/03/02 10:24 a.m.