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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 28

Wednesday, November 20, 2002

2:00 p.m.



Prayers

National Anthem

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Deferred Recorded Divisions

Government Orders

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) , seconded by Mr. DeVillers (Secretary of State (Amateur Sport)) , — That Bill C-17, An Act to amend certain Acts of Canada, and to enact measures for implementing the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention, in order to enhance public safety, be now read a second time and referred to a legislative committee.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

+

(Division No. 19 -- Vote no 19)

YEAS: 135, NAYS: 98

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Barnes (London West)
Bélair
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bertrand
Bonin
Bonwick
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Carignan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Coderre
Copps
Cullen
Cuzner
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dion
Discepola
Drouin
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Folco
Frulla
Fry
Gallaway
Godfrey
Goodale
Grose
Guarnieri
Harb
Harvard
Harvey
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Jordan
Karygiannis
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lincoln
Longfield
MacAulay
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Matthews
McCormick
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Mills (Toronto--Danforth)
Minna
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Normand
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Patry
Peric
Phinney
Pillitteri
Pratt
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Robillard
Rock
Saada
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Speller
St-Jacques
St-Julien
Stewart
Szabo
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Wappel
Wilfert
Wood -- 135
NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott
Ablonczy
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Bailey
Bergeron
Bigras
Blaikie
Borotsik
Breitkreuz
Brien
Brison
Burton
Cadman
Cardin
Casey
Chatters
Clark
Cummins
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Day
Desjarlais
Desrochers
Doyle
Duceppe
Duncan
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gallant
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Goldring
Gouk
Grewal
Guay
Guimond
Hanger
Harper
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lill
Loubier
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Marceau
Mark
Masse
McDonough
McNally
Ménard
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Pallister
Pankiw
Paquette
Penson
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Proctor
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Ritz
Robinson
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
Schmidt
Skelton
Sorenson
Spencer
Stinson
Strahl
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Toews
Tremblay
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
White (North Vancouver)
Yelich -- 98
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bourgeois
Collenette
Crête
Dromisky
Dubé
Fournier
Gagnon (Québec)
Graham
Karetak-Lindell
Marcil
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Plamondon
Savoy
St-Hilaire
Torsney
Venne

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to a legislative committee.

Business of Supply

Pursuant to Order made Tuesday, November 19, 2002, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. McDonough (Halifax) , seconded by Mr. Godin (Acadie—Bathurst) , — That this House call upon the government to develop a comprehensive program to level the playing field for Canadians with disabilities, by acting on the unanimous recommendations of the committee report “Getting It Right for Canadians: the Disability Tax Credit”; in particular the recommendations calling for changes to the eligibility requirements of the Disability Tax Credit so that they will incorporate in a more humane and compassionate manner the real life circumstances of persons with disabilities, and withdraw the proposed changes to the Disability Tax Credit, released on August 30th, 2002.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

-

(Division No. 20 -- Vote no 20)

YEAS: 234, NAYS: 0

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott
Ablonczy
Adams
Alcock
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Bailey
Barnes (London West)
Bélair
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bergeron
Bertrand
Bigras
Blaikie
Bonin
Bonwick
Borotsik
Boudria
Bradshaw
Breitkreuz
Brien
Brison
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Burton
Byrne
Caccia
Cadman
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Cardin
Carignan
Carroll
Casey
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Chatters
Clark
Coderre
Copps
Cotler
Cullen
Cummins
Cuzner
Dalphond-Guiral
Davies
Day
Desjarlais
Desrochers
DeVillers
Dhaliwal
Dion
Discepola
Doyle
Drouin
Duceppe
Duncan
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Epp
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Fitzpatrick
Folco
Forseth
Frulla
Fry
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gallant
Gallaway
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Godfrey
Godin
Goldring
Goodale
Gouk
Grewal
Grose
Guarnieri
Guay
Guimond
Hanger
Harb
Harper
Harvard
Harvey
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Hubbard
Ianno
Jackson
Jennings
Johnston
Jordan
Karygiannis
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
Longfield
Loubier
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
MacAulay
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Marceau
Mark
Masse
Matthews
McCormick
McDonough
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McNally
McTeague
Ménard
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Mills (Toronto--Danforth)
Minna
Mitchell
Moore
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Normand
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Brien (Labrador)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Pallister
Pankiw
Paquette
Paradis
Patry
Penson
Peric
Perron
Phinney
Picard (Drummond)
Pillitteri
Pratt
Proctor
Provenzano
Rajotte
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Ritz
Robillard
Robinson
Rocheleau
Rock
Roy
Saada
Sauvageau
Scherrer
Schmidt
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Skelton
Sorenson
Speller
Spencer
St-Jacques
St-Julien
Stewart
Stinson
Strahl
Szabo
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Tirabassi
Toews
Tonks
Tremblay
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Volpe
Wappel
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
White (North Vancouver)
Wilfert
Wood
Yelich -- 234
NAYS -- CONTRE
Nil--Aucun
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bourgeois
Collenette
Crête
Dromisky
Dubé
Fournier
Gagnon (Québec)
Graham
Karetak-Lindell
Marcil
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Plamondon
Savoy
St-Hilaire
Torsney
Venne

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Jordan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister) laid upon the Table, — Report of the Ethics Counsellor on the activities of the Office of the Ethics Counsellor to September 30, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-803-01.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 372-0126 and 372-0127 concerning the employment insurance program. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-29-01;

— Nos. 372-0199, 372-0200 and 372-0385 to 372-0391 concerning unborn children. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-30-01;

— No. 372-0254 concerning Canadian embassies. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-31-01;

— Nos. 372-0344 to 372-0349, 372-0351 to 372-0354, 372-0357, 372-0358, 372-0364 to 372-0372, 372-0374, 372-0376 to 372-0381 and 372-0394 to 372-0400 concerning pornography. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-25-03;

— Nos. 372-0363, 372-0373, 372-0375, 372-0392 and 372-0393 concerning stem cell research. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-14-10;

— No. 372-0382 concerning pesticides. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-15-03.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds—Dollard) , from the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade, presented the Second Report of the Committee (Bill S-2, An Act to implement an agreement, conventions and protocols concluded between Canada and Kuwait, Mongolia, the United Arab Emirates, Moldova, Norway, Belgium and Italy for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion and to amend the enacted text of three tax treaties, without amendment). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-5.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 10) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Moore (Port Moody—Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam) , seconded by Mr. McNally (Dewdney—Alouette) , Bill C-307, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (child pornography), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Paquette (Joliette) , seconded by Mr. Lanctôt (Châteauguay) , Bill C-308, An Act to amend the Canada-Israel Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon—Humboldt) , seconded by Mr. White (North Vancouver) , Bill C-309, An Act to amend the Official Languages Act (provision of bilingual services), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) , seconded by Mr. Hearn (St. John's West) , Bill C-310, An Act to establish the rights of fishers including the right to be involved in the process of fisheries stock assessment, fish conservation, setting of fishing quotas, fishing licensing and the public right to fish and establish the right of fishers to be informed of decisions affecting fishing as a livelihood in advance and the right to compensation if other rights are abrogated unfairly, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) , seconded by Mr. Hearn (St. John's West) , Bill C-311, An Act to protect the privacy of patients and the confidentiality of their health information, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the speeches delivered at the unveiling of the official portrait of the Right Honourable Brian Mulroney be printed as an appendix to Hansard.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Bailey (Souris—Moose Mountain) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0544) and one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0545);

— by Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , one concerning the situation in the Middle East (No. 372-0546) and one concerning pornography (No. 372-0547);

— by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg—Transcona) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0548) and one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0549);

— by Mr. Goldring (Edmonton Centre-East) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0550);

— by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough Southwest) , two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0551 and 372-0552) and two concerning unborn children (Nos. 372-0553 and 372-0554);

— by Mr. Cummins (Delta—South Richmond) , one concerning the Canadian Coast Guard (No. 372-0555), one concerning the fishing industry (No. 372-0556) and one concerning pornography (No. 372-0557);

— by Mrs. Wayne (Saint John) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0558);

— by Mr. Spencer (Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0559);

— by Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon—Humboldt) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0560).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-24, Q-27 and Q-28 on the Order Paper.

Government Orders

Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Ms. Robillard (President of the Treasury Board) , moved, — That this House take note of proposals for modernization and improvement of the procedures of the House of Commons. (Government Business No. 8)

Debate arose thereon.

Private Members' Business

At 5:50 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities of Bill C-224, An Act to amend the Canada Labour Code.

Ms. Guay (Laurentides) , seconded by Mr. Blaikie (Winnipeg—Transcona) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) — Statutes of the Northwest Territories for July 2002, pursuant to the Northwest Territories Act, R. S. 1985, c. N-27, sbs. 21(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-388-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources)

Adjournment

At 6:45 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).