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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 151

Wednesday, November 5, 2003

2:00 p.m.



Prayers

National Anthem

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Messages from the Senate

Messages were received from the Senate informing this House that the Senate has passed the following Bills to which the concurrence of the House is desired:

Bill S-10, An Act concerning personal watercraft in navigable waters;

Bill S-21, An Act to amalgamate the Canadian Association of Insurance and Financial Advisors and The Canadian Association of Financial Planners under the name The Financial Advisors Association of Canada.

Pursuant to Standing Order 135(2), Bill S-21, An Act to amalgamate the Canadian Association of Insurance and Financial Advisors and The Canadian Association of Financial Planners under the name The Financial Advisors Association of Canada, was deemed read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Mr. McCallum (Minister of National Defence) laid upon the Table, — Report of the review of the provisions and operations of the National Defence Act, including the Minister's comments thereon, pursuant to the National Defence Act S.C. 1998, c. 35, s. 96. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-828-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs)


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Malhi (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Labour) laid upon the Table, — Document entitled “Canadian Position with Respect to Recommendation 193, a Protocol to Convention 155 and Recommendation 194 adopted at the 90th Session of the International Labour Conference held in Geneva, Switzerland in June 2002”. — Sessional Paper No. 8525-372-32.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Hubbard (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) laid upon the Table, — Document entitled “Westbank First Nation Self-Government Agreement”, dated October 3, 2003. — Sessional Paper No. 8525-372-33.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— No. 372-1963 concerning war on Iraq. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-83-5;

— Nos. 372-2001 to 372-2015 and 372-2023 to 372-2027 concerning gun control. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-42-10;

— No. 372-2030 concerning weather services. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-86-2;

— Nos. 372-2084 and 372-2303 concerning stem cell research. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-14-46;

— No. 372-2089 concerning federal government contracts. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-12-06;

— No. 372-2340 concerning abortion. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-68-04.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Comuzzi (Thunder Bay—Superior North) presented the Report of the Canadian Section of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group respecting its participation at the 44th Annual Meeting, held in Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario, from May 15 to 19, 2003. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-372-59-02.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Adams (Peterborough) , from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 53rd Report of the Committee (Standing Orders relating to delegated legislation). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-162.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 64) was tabled.


Mr. Pratt (Nepean—Carleton) , from the Standing Committee on National Defence and Veterans Affairs, presented the Seventh Report of the Committee (motion concerning the report of the National Defence and Canadian Forces Ombudman, “Unfair Deductions from SISIP Payments to Former CF Members”). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-163.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 42) was tabled.


Ms. Marleau (Sudbury) , from the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade, presented the Ninth Report of the Committee (detention of Canadian citizens in certain foreign countries). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-164.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 46, 50, 54 and 55) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) , seconded by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East) , Bill C-466, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (interference with a peace officer's equipment), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) , seconded by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East) , Bill C-467, An Act to amend the Radiocommunication Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That the amendment made by the Senate to Bill C-459, An Act to establish Holocaust Memorial Day, be now read a second time and concurred in.


By unanimous consent, it was resolved, — That the 53rd Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Ms. Sgro (York West) , twenty-six concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2438 to 372-2463);

— by Mr. Moore (Port Moody—Coquitlam—Port Coquitlam) , one concerning the Criminal Code of Canada (No. 372-2464) and one concerning marriage (No. 372-2465);

— by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton—Melville) , two concerning abortion (Nos. 372-2466 and 372-2467) and five concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2468 to 372-2472);

— by Mr. Comuzzi (Thunder Bay—Superior North) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-2473);

— by Mr. Casson (Lethbridge) , three concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2474 to 372-2476);

— by Mr. Grewal (Surrey Central) , eleven concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2477 to 372-2487) and one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-2488);

— by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-2489);

— by Mr. Wood (Nipissing) , twelve concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2490 to 372-2501);

— by Mr. Hanger (Calgary Northeast) , five concerning pornography (Nos. 372-2502 to 372-2506), five concerning sex offenders (Nos. 372-2507 to 372-2511), three concerning the sexual exploitation of minors (Nos. 372-2512 to 372-2514), four concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2515 to 372-2518) and one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-2519);

— by Mr. Vellacott (Saskatoon—Wanuskewin) , three concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2520 to 372-2522);

— by Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast) , two concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2523 and 372-2524), two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-2525 and 372-2526) and one concerning war on Iraq (No. 372-2527);

— by Mrs. Ur (Lambton—Kent—Middlesex) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-2528);

— by Mr. Godin (Acadie—Bathurst) , one concerning post-secondary education (No. 372-2529) and one concerning the Employment Insurance program (No. 372-2530);

— by Mr. Malhi (Bramalea—Gore—Malton—Springdale) , nine concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2531 to 372-2539).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-259, Q-262 and Q-267 on the Order Paper.

Notices of Motions for the Production of Papers

The Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-43 was called pursuant to Standing Order 97(1) and was transferred by the Clerk to “Notices of Motions (Papers)”.


The Notice of Motion for the Production of Papers P-44 was called pursuant to Standing Order 97(1) and was transferred by the Clerk to “Notices of Motions (Papers)”.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. DeVillers (Secretary of State (Physical Activity and Sport)) , — That Bill C-46, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (capital markets fraud and evidence-gathering), be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.


The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-23, An Act respecting the registration of information relating to sex offenders, to amend the Criminal Code and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights with amendments.

Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) for Mr. Easter (Solicitor General of Canada) , seconded by Ms. Bradshaw (Minister of Labour) , moved, — That the Bill, as amended, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill, as amended, was concurred in at report stage.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(11), Mr. Anderson (Minister of the Environment) for Mr. Easter (Solicitor General of Canada) , seconded by Ms. Bradshaw (Minister of Labour) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Deferred Recorded Divisions

Government Orders

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Cauchon (Minister of Justice) , seconded by Mr. DeVillers (Secretary of State (Physical Activity and Sport)) , — That Bill C-46, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (capital markets fraud and evidence-gathering), be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

+

(Division No. 276 -- Vote no 276)

YEAS: 194, NAYS: 24

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Bailey
Bakopanos
Barrette
Beaumier
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Benoit
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Borotsik
Boudria
Bradshaw
Breitkreuz
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Cadman
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Chamberlain
Charbonneau
Chatters
Coderre
Comartin
Comuzzi
Cotler
Cummins
Cuzner
Day
Desjarlais
DeVillers
Dion
Discepola
Doyle
Dromisky
Drouin
Duncan
Duplain
Easter
Eggleton
Elley
Epp
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Folco
Fontana
Fry
Gallant
Gallaway
Godfrey
Godin
Goldring
Goodale
Gouk
Graham
Grewal
Grey
Grose
Guarnieri
Hanger
Harper
Harvard
Harvey
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Hubbard
Jennings
Jobin
Johnston
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
MacAulay
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Mark
Marleau
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Masse
McCallum
McCormick
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McNally
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Mitchell
Moore
Myers
Nault
Neville
O'Reilly
Obhrai
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Pallister
Paradis
Parrish
Patry
Peric
Peschisolido
Peterson
Pettigrew
Pratt
Price
Proctor
Provenzano
Rajotte
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Reynolds
Ritz
Robillard
Rock
Saada
Savoy
Schellenberger
Schmidt
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Sorenson
Speller
Spencer
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Stoffer
Strahl
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Toews
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Vellacott
Volpe
Wayne
Whelan
Wood
Yelich -- 194
NAYS -- CONTRE
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bergeron
Bigras
Bourgeois
Cardin
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Desrochers
Duceppe
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gaudet
Girard-Bujold
Guay
Guimond
Laframboise
Marceau
Ménard
Plamondon
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
Tremblay -- 24
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Cullen
Fournier
Gauthier
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Longfield
McTeague
Murphy
Paquette
Picard (Drummond)
Scherrer
St-Hilaire
Wilfert

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Private Members' Business

Pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Cadman (Surrey North) , seconded by Mrs. Yelich (Blackstrap) , — That Bill C-338, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (street racing), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

-

(Division No. 277 -- Vote no 277)

YEAS: 121, NAYS: 88

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Assadourian
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bailey
Bélanger
Bellemare
Benoit
Bergeron
Bigras
Blaikie
Bonin
Borotsik
Bourgeois
Breitkreuz
Caccia
Cadman
Cannis
Cardin
Chamberlain
Chatters
Comartin
Comuzzi
Crête
Cummins
Dalphond-Guiral
Day
Desjarlais
Desrochers
Discepola
Doyle
Duceppe
Duncan
Elley
Epp
Fontana
Fry
Gagnon (Québec)
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gallant
Gaudet
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Goldring
Gouk
Grewal
Grey
Guarnieri
Guay
Guimond
Hanger
Harper
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Hinton
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Laframboise
Lastewka
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Maloney
Marceau
Mark
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Masse
McCormick
McDonough
McGuire
McNally
Ménard
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
O'Reilly
Obhrai
Pacetti
Pallister
Parrish
Peric
Peschisolido
Plamondon
Proctor
Rajotte
Reed (Halton)
Reynolds
Ritz
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
Schellenberger
Schmidt
Sorenson
Speller
Spencer
Steckle
Stoffer
Strahl
Szabo
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Toews
Tonks
Tremblay
Ur
Vellacott
Volpe
Wayne
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
Wood
Yelich -- 121
NAYS -- CONTRE
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barrette
Beaumier
Bennett
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Calder
Caplan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Coderre
Cuzner
DeVillers
Dion
Dromisky
Drouin
Duplain
Easter
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Gallaway
Godfrey
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Harvard
Harvey
Hubbard
Jennings
Jobin
Karetak-Lindell
Keyes
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
LeBlanc
Lee
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
McCallum
McLellan
Mitchell
Myers
Nault
Neville
Owen
Pagtakhan
Paradis
Patry
Peterson
Pettigrew
Pratt
Price
Redman
Regan
Robillard
Rock
Saada
Savoy
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
St. Denis
Stewart
Thibault (West Nova)
Torsney
Valeri
Vanclief
Whelan -- 88
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Cullen
Fournier
Gauthier
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Longfield
McTeague
Murphy
Paquette
Picard (Drummond)
Scherrer
St-Hilaire
Wilfert

Accordingly, Bill C-338, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (street racing), was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Private Members' Business

At 6:10 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights of Bill C-452, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (proceedings under section 258).

Mr. Benoit (Lakeland) , seconded by Mr. Abbott (Kootenay—Columbia) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the recorded division was deferred until Wednesday, November 19, 2003, immediately before the time provided for Private Members' Business.

Messages from the Senate

A message was received from the Senate as follows:

    — ORDERED: That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed Bill C-459, An Act to establish Holocaust Memorial Day, with the following amendment:

Page 1, preamble, line 18:

Replace the words ‘House of Commons’ by the words “Parliament of Canada”.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Easter (Solicitor General of Canada) — Report of the Registrar of the Canadian Firearms Registry for the year 2002, pursuant to the Firearms Act, R.C. 1995, c. 39, sbs. 93(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-144-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Easter (Solicitor General of Canada) — Report on the use of electronic surveillance for the year 2002, pursuant to the Criminal Code, R.S. 1985, c. C-46, sbs. 195(4). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-510-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Fourth report of the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities, “Building a Brighter Future for Urban Aboriginal Children” (Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-107), presented to the House on Thursday, June 12, 2003. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-372-107.

— by Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) — Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal entitled “Request for Tariff Relief by Trybal Sportswear Inc. Regarding Certain Woven Fabrics of Polyester/Rayon/Elastomeric Monofilament”, dated October 20, 2003, pursuant to the Canada-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, S. C. 1988, c. 65, s. 54. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-572-07. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

— by Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) — Report of the Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2003, pursuant to the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) and Terrorist Financing Act), S.C. 2000, c. 17, sbs. 71(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-802-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

— by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development) — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Third report of the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities, “Raising Adult Literacy Skills: The Need for a Pan-Canadian Response” (Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-106), presented to the House on Thursday, June 12, 2003. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-372-106.

— by Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development) — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Fifth report of the Standing Committee Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities, “Listening to Canadians: A First View of the Future of the Canada Pension Plan Disability Program” (Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-108), presented to the House on Thursday, June 12, 2003. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-372-108.

Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 131(1), a petition for a Private Bill was filed as follows:

– by Mr. Peterson (Willowdale) , from the Canadian Association of Insurance and Financial Advisors and The Canadian Association of Financial Planners.


Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

— by Mrs. Ur (Lambton—Kent—Middlesex) , one concerning abortion (No. 372-2540);

— by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East) , one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-2541).

Adjournment Proceedings

At 7:00 p.m., by unanimous consent, the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 7:27 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).