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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 142

Thursday, October 23, 2003

10:00 a.m.



Prayers

Deferred Recorded Divisions

Government Orders

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Knutson (Secretary of State (Central and Eastern Europe and Middle East)) , — That Bill C-49, An Act respecting the effective date of the representation order of 2003, be now read a third time and do pass.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Knutson (Secretary of State (Central and Eastern Europe and Middle East)) , — That this question be now put.

By unanimous consent, the motion was agreed to on division.

Pursuant to Standing Order 61(2), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the motion of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Knutson (Secretary of State (Central and Eastern Europe and Middle East)) , — That Bill C-49, An Act respecting the effective date of the representation order of 2003, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 253 -- Vote no 253)

YEAS: 175, NAYS: 30

YEAS -- POUR
Abbott
Adams
Allard
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Augustine
Bagnell
Bailey
Barnes (London West)
Beaumier
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Benoit
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blaikie
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Bonwick
Boudria
Bradshaw
Breitkreuz
Brison
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Burton
Byrne
Cadman
Calder
Cannis
Castonguay
Catterall
Charbonneau
Chatters
Coderre
Collenette
Comartin
Comuzzi
Cullen
Cummins
Cuzner
Davies
Dion
Discepola
Doyle
Duncan
Easter
Epp
Farrah
Fitzpatrick
Fontana
Frulla
Fry
Gallant
Gallaway
Godfrey
Godin
Goldring
Goodale
Gouk
Graham
Grose
Harper
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Ianno
Jackson
Jaffer
Jennings
Jobin
Johnston
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Knutson
Kraft Sloan
Lastewka
Lee
Leung
Lill
Lincoln
Longfield
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
MacAulay
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Macklin
Maloney
Marcil
Mark
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Masse
McCallum
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McNally
McTeague
Meredith
Merrifield
Mitchell
Moore
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
Nystrom
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Parrish
Penson
Pettigrew
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pratt
Price
Proctor
Proulx
Provenzano
Rajotte
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Ritz
Robillard
Robinson
Rock
Saada
Scherrer
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Skelton
Solberg
Spencer
St-Jacques
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Stinson
Stoffer
Strahl
Szabo
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (Wild Rose)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Tirabassi
Toews
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Vellacott
Volpe
Wappel
Wasylycia-Leis
Wayne
White (North Vancouver)
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
Wilfert
Williams
Yelich -- 175
NAYS -- CONTRE
Asselin
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bigras
Borotsik
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Duceppe
Fournier
Gagnon (Champlain)
Gagnon (Lac-Saint-Jean—Saguenay)
Gagnon (Québec)
Gaudet
Gauthier
Girard-Bujold
Guay
Harvey
Laframboise
Lanctôt
Loubier
Marceau
Ménard
Paquette
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Plamondon
Rocheleau
Roy
Sauvageau
St-Hilaire
Tremblay -- 30
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Alcock
Bergeron
Cardin
Cauchon
Desrochers
Duplain
Guarnieri
Guimond
Lalonde
Peterson

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That Bill C-53, An Act to change the names of certain electoral districts, be deemed amended in clause 23 by deleting the word “Woodwich” and substituting therefor the word “Woolwich” and that the Bill be deemed read a second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole, deemed considered in Committee of the Whole, deemed reported without amendment, deemed concurred in at report stage and deemed read a third time and passed.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— No. 372-1906 concerning unborn children. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-30-08;

— Nos. 372-1916, 372-1927, 372-1930, 372-1944, 372-1955, 372-1991, 372-1997, 372-2019, 372-2028, 372-2035, 372-2040, 372-2081, 372-2092, 372-2103 to 372-2105, 372-2112, 372-2125 and 372-2126 concerning pornography. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-25-31;

— No. 372-1957 concerning abortion. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-68-02;

— Nos. 372-2107 to 372-2109, 372-2111, 372-2122, 372-2123, 372-2129 and 372-2130 concerning marriage. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-40-11.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Mr. Easter (Solicitor General of Canada) , Bill C-54, An Act to amend the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act and the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Regulations, 1999, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2))

Her Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled “An Act to amend the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act and the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Regulations, 1999”.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Macklin (Northumberland) , from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the Fifth Report of the Committee (Bill C-45, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal liability of organizations), with amendments). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-147.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 72) was tabled.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Comuzzi (Thunder Bay—Superior North) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-2248);

— by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley) , three concerning pornography (Nos. 372-2249 to 372-2251), two concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2252 and 372-2253), two concerning stem cell research (Nos. 372-2254 and 372-2255) and one concerning the Department of Human Resources Development (No. 372-2256);

— by Mrs. Yelich (Blackstrap) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-2257);

— by Mr. Bailey (Souris—Moose Mountain) , two concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2258 and 372-2259);

— by Mr. Spencer (Regina—Lumsden—Lake Centre) , two concerning marriage (Nos. 372-2260 and 372-2261) and two concerning the Divorce Act (Nos. 372-2262 and 372-2263);

— by Mr. Mark (Dauphin—Swan River) , one concerning mad cow disease (No. 372-2264), one concerning Ukrainian Canadians (No. 372-2265), one concerning Chinese Canadians (No. 372-2266), one concerning gun control (No. 372-2267) and one concerning marriage (No. 372-2268);

— by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , one concerning marriage (No. 372-2269);

— by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-2270).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answers to questions Q-250 and Q-252 on the Order Paper and a supplementary answer to question Q-147.


Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the return to the following question made into an Order for Return:

Q-245 — Mr. Cummins (Delta—South Richmond) — With regard to emamectin benzoate, the unlicensed drug used to treat infestations of sea lice in farmed salmon: (a) how many requests for emergency release have been received for each of the following years: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003; (b) how many requests for emergency release have been approved for the following years: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003; (c) what quantities of the drug were approved in the following years: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003; (d) how many fish were treated with the drug during the following years: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003; (e) what are the known effects of the drug if ingested by shrimp, prawns and lobster in the following years: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003; (f) what are the known effects of the drug on humans ingesting seafood that has been treated with it; (g) how many times has the drug been used as a preventative measure against sea lice in the following years: 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003; and (h) what areas of Canada’s coastlines have been exposed to this drug? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-372-245.

Business of Supply

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Gauthier (Roberval) , seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot) , moved, — That, although the Prime Minister has a mandate and should be able to end it as he chooses, given the democratic imbalance that currently prevails and that results in the government’s decision-making occurring outside this House, and more broadly outside any public institution, this House calls upon the Prime Minister to leave office as soon as possible after November 14, 2003.

Debate arose thereon.

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 Members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After three minutes, a quorum was found.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gauthier (Roberval) , seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot) , in relation to the Business of Supply.

The debate continued.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, — That, in relation to its study on solicitation laws, one research officer of the Subcommittee on Solicitation Laws of the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights be authorized to travel from Ottawa to Victoria on October 23, 2003, to attend a three-day conference.

Business of Supply

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Gauthier (Roberval) , seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe—Bagot) , in relation to the Business of Supply.

The debate continued.

At 5:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Order made Tuesday, October 21, 2003, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, October 28, 2003, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

Private Members' Business

At 5:17 p.m., by unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Pallister (Portage—Lisgar) , seconded by Mrs. Hinton (Kamloops, Thompson and Highland Valleys) , — That Bill C-416, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Youth Criminal Justice Act (sentencing principles), be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the recorded division was deferred until Wednesday, October 29, 2003, immediately before the time provided for Private Members' Business.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), a paper deposited with the Clerk of the House was laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Coderre (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Fifth Report of the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration, “Settlement and Integration: A Sense of Belonging — “Feeling at Home”” (Sessional Paper No. 8510-372-91), presented to the House on Thursday, June 5, 2003. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-372-91.

Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

— by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley) , one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-2271).

Adjournment Proceedings

At 6:18 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 6:48 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).