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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 12

Tuesday, October 22, 2002

10:00 a.m.



Prayers

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

The Speaker laid upon the Table, — Report of the Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development to the House of Commons for the year 2002, pursuant to the Auditor General Act, S.C. 1995, c. 43, s. 5. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-521-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

Motions

Pursuant to Standing Order 56.1(1)(a), Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Ms. Augustine (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism) (Status of Women)) , moved, — That the First Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented on Monday, October 21, 2002, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and, more than 25 Members having risen to object, pursuant to Standing Order 56.1(3), the motion was deemed withdrawn.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0164) and one concerning alcoholic beverages (No. 372-0165);

— by Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi—Baie-James—Nunavik) , one concerning aboriginal affairs (No. 372-0166);

— by Mr. Cadman (Surrey North) , five concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0167 to 372-0171);

— by Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) , four concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0172 to 372-0175);

— by Mr. Casson (Lethbridge) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0176) and five concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0177 to 372-0181);

— by Mr. Duncan (Vancouver Island North) , two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0182 and 372-0183);

— by Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon—Humboldt) , one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0184).

Government Orders

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the of Bill C-3, An Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board Act.

Mr. Drouin (Secretary of State (Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)) for Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Ms. Augustine (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism) (Status of Women)) , moved, — That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

Debate arose thereon.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

By unanimous consent, pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lincoln (Lac-Saint-Louis) , seconded by Mr. Harvey (Chicoutimi—Le Fjord) , Bill C-235, An Act to protect human health and the environment by oxygenating automotive fuels, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


By unanimous consent, pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lincoln (Lac-Saint-Louis) , seconded by Mr. Harvey (Chicoutimi—Le Fjord) , Bill C-236, An Act to prohibit the use of chemical pesticides for non-essential purposes, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Ms. Augustine (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism) (Status of Women)) , — That Bill C-3, An Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DEFERRED RECORDED DIVISIONS

Address In Reply To The Speech From The Throne

Pursuant to Order made Friday, October 11, 2002, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Pacetti (Saint-Léonard—Saint-Michel) , seconded by Ms. Neville (Winnipeg South Centre) , — That the following Address be presented to Her Excellency the Governor General:

To Her Excellency the Right Honourable Adrienne Clarkson, Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.

MAY IT PLEASE YOUR EXCELLENCY:

We, Her Majesty's most loyal and dutiful subjects, the House of Commons of Canada, in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed to both Houses of Parliament.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

+

(Division No. 8 -- Vote no 8)

YEAS: 142, NAYS: 95

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barnes (London West)
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Bonwick
Boudria
Bradshaw
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Carignan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Charbonneau
Chrétien
Coderre
Collenette
Comuzzi
Copps
Cotler
Cullen
Cuzner
DeVillers
Dion
Dromisky
Drouin
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Fontana
Frulla
Fry
Gallaway
Godfrey
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Harvard
Harvey
Hubbard
Jackson
Jordan
Keyes
Kraft Sloan
Laliberte
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lincoln
Longfield
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Marleau
Martin (LaSalle--Émard)
Matthews
McCallum
McCormick
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Minna
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pagtakhan
Patry
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Pratt
Price
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Robillard
Rock
Saada
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Speller
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Volpe
Wappel
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 142
NAYS -- CONTRE
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bailey
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Benoit
Bigras
Borotsik
Bourgeois
Breitkreuz
Brison
Burton
Cadman
Cardin
Chatters
Clark
Crête
Davies
Desjarlais
Desrochers
Doyle
Dubé
Duceppe
Duncan
Elley
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Fournier
Gagnon (Québec)
Gallant
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Goldring
Grewal
Grey
Guay
Guimond
Harper
Harris
Hearn
Herron
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hill (Macleod)
Hilstrom
Johnston
Keddy (South Shore)
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lebel
Loubier
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Marceau
Mark
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Masse
Ménard
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Obhrai
Pallister
Paquette
Penson
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Plamondon
Proctor
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Ritz
Robinson
Rocheleau
Roy
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
Stinson
Stoffer
Strahl
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Toews
Vellacott
Venne
Wayne
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
Williams
Yelich -- 95

Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Reynolds (West Vancouver—Sunshine Coast) , moved, — That the Address be engrossed and presented to Her Excellency the Governor General by the Speaker.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Government Orders

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Nault (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development) , seconded by Ms. Caplan (Minister of National Revenue) , — That Bill C-2, An Act to establish a process for assessing the environmental and socio-economic effects of certain activities in Yukon, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

-

(Division No. 9 -- Vote no 9)

YEAS: 190, NAYS: 49

YEAS -- POUR
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anderson (Victoria)
Assad
Assadourian
Augustine
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bachand (Richmond--Arthabaska)
Bagnell
Bakopanos
Barnes (London West)
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bennett
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Bigras
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonin
Bonwick
Borotsik
Boudria
Bourgeois
Bradshaw
Brison
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Byrne
Caccia
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Cardin
Carignan
Carroll
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Charbonneau
Chrétien
Clark
Coderre
Collenette
Comuzzi
Copps
Cotler
Crête
Cullen
Cuzner
Davies
Desjarlais
Desrochers
DeVillers
Dion
Doyle
Dromisky
Drouin
Dubé
Duceppe
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Fontana
Fournier
Frulla
Fry
Gagnon (Québec)
Gallaway
Girard-Bujold
Godfrey
Godin
Goodale
Graham
Grose
Guay
Guimond
Harvard
Harvey
Hearn
Herron
Hubbard
Jackson
Jordan
Karygiannis
Keddy (South Shore)
Keyes
Kraft Sloan
Laframboise
Laliberte
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lebel
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lincoln
Longfield
Loubier
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Macklin
Mahoney
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marceau
Marcil
Mark
Marleau
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Masse
Matthews
McCallum
McCormick
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McLellan
McTeague
Ménard
Minna
Mitchell
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Owen
Pagtakhan
Paquette
Patry
Perron
Peterson
Pettigrew
Phinney
Picard (Drummond)
Pickard (Chatham--Kent Essex)
Pillitteri
Plamondon
Pratt
Price
Proctor
Proulx
Provenzano
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Robillard
Robinson
Rocheleau
Rock
Roy
Saada
Savoy
Scherrer
Scott
Serré
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Speller
St-Julien
St. Denis
Steckle
Stewart
Stoffer
Szabo
Telegdi
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Tirabassi
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Venne
Volpe
Wappel
Wayne
Whelan
Wilfert
Wood -- 190
NAYS -- CONTRE
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Bailey
Benoit
Breitkreuz
Burton
Cadman
Chatters
Duncan
Elley
Epp
Fitzpatrick
Forseth
Gallant
Goldring
Grewal
Grey
Harper
Harris
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Johnston
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Moore
Obhrai
Pallister
Penson
Rajotte
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Reynolds
Ritz
Schmidt
Skelton
Solberg
Sorenson
Spencer
Stinson
Strahl
Toews
Vellacott
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
Williams
Yelich -- 49

Accordingly, the Bill was read the second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources.

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of Natural Resources) , seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada) , — That Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Nuclear Safety and Control Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources;

And of the amendment of Ms. Girard-Bujold (Jonquière) , seconded by Mr. Paquette (Joliette) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Nuclear Safety and Control Act, be not now read a second time but that it be read a second time this day six months hence.”.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the amendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Wednesday, October 23, 2002, at the beginning of the time provided for Government Orders.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Ms. Augustine (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism) (Status of Women)) , — That Bill C-3, An Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) — Response of the government, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the 21st Report of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts (Chapter 10 of the October 2000 Report of the Auditor General of Canada) (Sessional Paper No. 8510-371-160), presented to the House on Wednesday, May 22, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8512-372-160.

— by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Public Works and Government Services) — Reports of Communication Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-865-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Graham (Minister of Foreign Affairs) — Report of the Roosevelt Campobello International Park Commission, together with the Auditors' Report, for the year 2001, pursuant to the Roosevelt Campobello International Park Commission Act, S.C. 1964-65, c. 19, s. 7. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-229-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

— by Mr. Graham (Minister of Foreign Affairs) — Reports of the International Centre for Human Rights and Democratic Development for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-619-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada) — Report of the National DNA Data Bank of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the DNA Identification Act, S.C. 2000, c. 10, s. 12. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-777-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister for International Trade) — Report of the Export Development Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-662-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

— by Mr. Pettigrew (Minister for International Trade) — Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 2002-03 to 2006-07 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 2002-03 of the Canadian Commercial Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). — Sessional Paper No. 8562-372-817-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

Petitions Filed with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

— by Mr. Bélair (Timmins—James Bay) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0185).

Adjournment Proceedings

At 6:45 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question “That this House do now adjourn” was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

Accordingly, at 6:54 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).