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44th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION

Journals

No. 196

Friday, May 12, 2023

10:00 a.m.



The acting clerk informed the House of the unavoidable absence of the Speaker.

Whereupon, Mr. d'Entremont (West Nova), Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole, took the chair, pursuant to subsection 43(1) of the Parliament of Canada Act.

Prayer
Government Orders

The order was read for the third reading of Bill C-13, An Act to amend the Official Languages Act, to enact the Use of French in Federally Regulated Private Businesses Act and to make related amendments to other Acts.

Ms. Petitpas Taylor (Minister of Official Languages), seconded by Ms. Joly (Minister of Foreign Affairs), moved, — That the bill be now read a third time and do pass.

Debate arose thereon.

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Ms. Dabrusin (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Natural Resources and to the Minister of Environment and Climate Change) laid upon the table, — Copy of the International Tropical Timber Agreement, 2006, done at Geneva on January 27, 2006, and Explanatory Memorandum. — Sessional Paper No. 8532-441-35.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Ms. O'Connell (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities) laid upon the table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— No. 441-01216 concerning civil and human rights;

— Nos. 441-01217, 441-01220, 441-01221, 441-01222, 441-01223, 441-01224, 441-01225, 441-01226, 441-01227, 441-01228, 441-01232 and 441-01233 concerning business and trade;

— Nos. 441-01218 and 441-01231 concerning justice;

— Nos. 441-01219 and 441-01229 concerning foreign affairs;

— Nos. 441-01230, 441-01234 and 441-01235 concerning the environment;

— No. 441-01236 concerning social affairs and equality.


Presenting Reports from Committees

Mrs. Atwin (Fredericton), from the Standing Committee on Indigenous and Northern Affairs, presented the seventh report of the committee (Bill C-45, An Act to amend the First Nations Fiscal Management Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts, and to make a clarification relating to another Act, with amendments). — Sessional Paper No. 8510-441-258.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 63) was tabled.


Mr. McKay (Scarborough—Guildwood), from the Standing Committee on National Defence, presented the fourth report of the committee, "Main Estimates 2023-24: Vote 1 under Communications Security Establishment, Votes 1, 5, 10 and 15 under Department of National Defence, Vote 1 under Military Grievances External Review Committee, Vote 1 under Military Police Complaints Commission and Vote 1 under Office of the Intelligence Commissioner". — Sessional Paper No. 8510-441-259.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 59) was tabled.


Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

— by Mr. MacGregor (Cowichan—Malahat—Langford), one concerning health (No. 441-01445).


Questions on the Order Paper

Pursuant to Standing Order 39(7), Ms. O'Connell (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities) presented the returns to the following questions made into orders for return:

Q-1356 — Mr. Ruff (Bruce—Grey—Owen Sound) — With regard to British pensioners living in Canada and impacted by the United Kingdom’s (UK) frozen pensions policy, under which the UK government does not index pensions: (a) have any ministers raised this issue with British officials since November 4, 2015, and, if so, for each instance, what were the (i) date, (ii) context, (iii) UK government's commitments to act, if any; and (b) for all instances in (a), which minister raised the issue and with which British official? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-441-1356.

Q-1357 — Mr. Brassard (Barrie—Innisfil) — With regard to government expenditures related to vacations by the Prime Minister outside of Canada, since November 4, 2015, broken down by each vacation: (a) what was the date and location of each trip; (b) for each vacation in (a), what were the total costs incurred by the government, including those incurred by security and support staff, for (i) accommodations, (ii) per diems, (iii) other expenses, broken down by type of expense; (c) what was the total amount of expenses related to the trips, such as flights, incurred by the government that were reimbursed by the Prime Minister; and (d) what number of travellers were represented by the reimbursement amount in (c)? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-441-1357.

Q-1358 — Mr. Tolmie (Moose Jaw—Lake Centre—Lanigan) — With regard to government expenditures related to the Prime Minister's residence and family that are reimbursed or partially reimbursed to taxpayers, since 2016, broken down by year: (a) what was the total amount spent on (i) food, (ii) cable and internet services, (iii) mobile devices and data plans; and (b) what was the total amount reimbursed by the Prime Minster for expenses incurred on (i) food, (ii) cable and internet services, (iii) mobile devices and data plans? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-441-1358.

Q-1359 — Ms. Ferreri (Peterborough—Kawartha) — With regard to the government's child care initiatives: (a) what is the government's estimate on the number of children in the age range to be covered by childcare; and (b) what number and percentage of the children in (a) does the government estimate (i) are currently enrolled in $10 day childcare, (ii) receive their childcare from other sources, broken down by source (relatives, faith-based daycares, etc.)? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-441-1359.

Q-1360 — Mrs. Roberts (King—Vaughan) — With regard to the government's response to the recent increase in violent stabbings in the Greater Toronto Area: what specific measures will the government be implementing before the summer to protect people from the criminals committing these stabbings, and, for each, on what date will the measure come into effect? — Sessional Paper No. 8555-441-1360.
Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Petitpas Taylor (Minister of Official Languages), seconded by Ms. Joly (Minister of Foreign Affairs), — That Bill C-13, An Act to amend the Official Languages Act, to enact the Use of French in Federally Regulated Private Businesses Act and to make related amendments to other Acts, be now read a third time and do pass.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to order made Thursday, June 23, 2022, the recorded division was deferred until Monday, May 15, 2023, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.

Private Members' Business

At 1:15 p.m., by unanimous consent, the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Blaikie (Elmwood—Transcona), seconded by Mr. MacGregor (Cowichan—Malahat—Langford), moved, — That:

(a) the House recognize that,
(i) it is a prerogative of the Crown to prorogue or dissolve Parliament at its pleasure,
(ii) the circumstances surrounding a prorogation of the House may bear on whether the government enjoys the confidence of the House,
(iii) the confidence convention is an important cornerstone of the Canadian political system,
(iv) the confidence convention has never been clearly codified and this has sometimes led to confusion among members and the general public as to the nature and significance of certain votes,
(v) governments have sometimes abused the confidence convention to reinforce party discipline or influence the outcome of a vote that is not explicitly a matter of confidence or that would not be considered a matter of confidence by convention;
(b) in the opinion of the House,
(i) the House itself, not the Prime Minister, should be the final authority as to whether the government of the day enjoys the confidence of the House,
(ii) when the House assembles following a general election, the government shall be called upon to demonstrate it enjoys the confidence of the House,
(iii) before a prorogation occurs, the House ought to have an opportunity to express its confidence in the government,
(iv) the means by which the House may pronounce itself on a question of confidence should be explicit, clear and predictable so that all members know well in advance when and how the confidence of the House will be tested,
(v) once the House has determined such means in its Standing Orders or in legislation, the government should not seek to circumvent the process established by the House by declaring a vote to be a matter of confidence if the rules of the House would not otherwise designate that vote as a matter of confidence, and any attempt to do so constitutes a contempt of Parliament,
(vi) a question of confidence is a serious matter and should not be used as a pretext for dilatory tactics by either side of the House;
(c) effective from the 20th sitting day after the adoption of this motion or at the beginning of the next Parliament, whichever comes first, the Standing Orders be amended as follows:
(i) by adding, after Standing Order 53.1, the following new standing order:
“53.2(1) The government must enjoy the confidence of the House of Commons. The House may express its confidence, or lack thereof, in the government by adopting a confidence motion in one of the following forms:
(a) “That the House has lost confidence in the government”;
(b) “That the House has confidence in the government”.
(2)(a) Notice of a confidence motion pursuant to section (1) of this standing order shall meet the requirements of Standing Order 54, provided that four sitting days shall be given prior to the motion being placed on the Order Paper. Such notice shall be signed by the sponsor and 20 other members representing more than one of the recognized parties.
(b) Notwithstanding Standing Order 18, the House may pronounce itself on the motions listed in section (1) of this standing order more than once.
(c) Only one confidence motion pursuant to section (1) of this standing order:
(i) may be placed on notice in each supply period;
(ii) shall be sponsored or signed by the same member of the House in a session of a Parliament.
(3) At the expiry of the notice period pursuant to section (2) of this standing order, an order of the day for the consideration of a confidence motion shall be placed on the Order Paper, be considered at the next sitting of the House and take precedence over all other business of the House, with the exception of a debate on a motion arising from a question of privilege.
(4) When the order of the day on a confidence motion is called, it must stand as the first order of the day. The confidence motion is deemed to have been moved and seconded and shall not be subject to any amendment.
(5) Private Members’ Business shall be suspended on a day any such motion is debated.
(6) No dilatory motion shall be received during debate on a confidence motion pursuant to section (1) of this standing order and the provisions of Standing Orders 62 and 63 shall be suspended.
(7) The proceedings on the order of the day on a confidence motion proposed thereto shall not exceed one sitting day.
(8) No member shall speak for more than 20 minutes at a time in the debate on a confidence motion. Following the speech of each member, a period not exceeding 10 minutes shall be made available, if required, to allow members to ask questions and comment briefly on matters relevant to the speech and to allow responses thereto. Any period of debate of 20 minutes may be divided in two pursuant to the provisions of Standing Order 43(2).
(9) When no further member rises to speak, or at the ordinary hour of daily adjournment, whichever is earlier, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings and the question shall be put and forthwith disposed of, notwithstanding Standing Order 45.
(10) Any matter of confidence so designated beyond those provided for in Standing Orders 50(8), 53.2(1), 81(18)(e), and 84(6)(b) may be called to the attention of the Chair and the member may ask that the matter be referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs. As the case may be, the matter shall automatically be referred to the said committee.”,
(ii) by adding, after Standing Order 53.2, the following new standing order:
“53.3(1) Following an expression of intent by the Prime Minister to recommend prorogation to the Crown, a minister of the Crown may place a confidence motion on notice that does not count for the purposes of Standing Order 53.2(2)(c).
(2) This motion shall proceed pursuant to Standing Order 53.2, except that the notice period required by Standing Order 53.2(2)(a) shall be one sitting day, instead of four, and the notice need only be signed by a minister of the Crown.
(3) During an adjournment period, when a confidence motion is put on notice pursuant to paragraph 3(1) of this standing order, the Speaker shall recall the House to meet at an earlier time, and thereupon the House shall meet to transact its business as if it had been duly adjourned to that time, provided that at least 48 hours’ notice shall be given for any sitting held pursuant to this paragraph.
(4) In the event of a prorogation occurring prior to the question being put on a confidence motion, the House shall, as its first item of business of a new session, consider a confidence motion pursuant to Standing Order 53.2, which shall be deemed placed on the Order Paper for that purpose.
53.4 At the opening of every Parliament, immediately after the Speaker has reported on the attendance of the Commons to the Senate, a motion pursuant to Standing Order 53.2(1)(b) shall be deemed moved and seconded, and be otherwise governed pursuant to Standing Orders 53.2(6), (7), (8) and (9).
(iii) in Standing Order 45(6)(a), by adding, after the words “An exception to this rule is”, the following: “the division on a confidence motion pursuant to Standing Order 53.2(9) and”,
(iv) by adding, after Standing Order 50(7), the following:
“(8) If the main motion is defeated, the government has lost the confidence of the House.”,
(v) by adding, after Standing Order 67(1)(p), the following:
“(q) for the consideration of a confidence motion”,
(vi) in Standing Order 81(13), by adding the following:
“They cannot contain explicitly worded expressions of confidence in the government.”,
(vii) by adding, after Standing Order 81(18)(d), the following:
“(e) After having disposed of any opposed item, if the motion to concur in the main estimates is defeated, the government has lost the confidence of the House.”,
(viii) by renumbering Standing Order 84(6) as Standing Order 84(6)(a),
(ix) by adding, after Standing Order 84(6)(a), the following:
“(b) If the main motion is defeated, the government has lost the confidence of the House.”,
(x) in Standing Order 99(1), by adding, after “52(14),”, the following: “53.2(5),”; and
(d) the Clerk of the House be authorized to make any required editorial and consequential alterations to the Standing Orders, including to the marginal notes, as well as such changes to the Order Paper and Notice Paper, as may be required. (Private Members' Business M-79)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 93(1), the order was dropped to the bottom of the order of precedence on the Order Paper.

Adjournment

At 2:15 p.m., the Deputy Speaker adjourned the House until Monday at 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).