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MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS

Meeting No. 5

Thursday, February 26, 2009

The Standing Committee on International Trade met at 9:06 a.m. this day, in Room 308, West Block, the Chair, Lee Richardson, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Dean Allison, Ron Cannan, John Cannis, Serge Cardin, Claude Guimond, Richard M. Harris, Ed Holder, Peter Julian, Gerald Keddy, Lee Richardson and Mario Silva.

Acting Members present: Michael John Savage for Hon. Scott Brison.

Associate Members present: Malcolm Allen.

In attendance: Library of Parliament: Michael Holden, Analyst ; Robert Dufresne, Analyst . House of Commons: Carmen DePape, Procedural Clerk.

Appearing: Hon. Tony Clement, Minister of Industry; Pierre Lemieux, Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Agriculture.

Witnesses: Department of Industry: Richard Dicerni, Deputy Minister; David Moloney, Assistant Deputy Minister, Industry Sector; Chummer Farina, Director General, Aerospace, Defence and Marine Branch.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference of Thursday February 5, 2009, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-2, An Act to implement the Free Trade Agreement between Canada and the States of the European Free Trade Association (Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway, Switzerland), the Agreement on Agriculture between Canada and the Republic of Iceland, the Agreement on Agriculture between Canada and the Kingdom of Norway and the Agreement on Agriculture between Canada and the Swiss Confederation.

The Minister made a statement and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

At 10:00 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:03 a.m., the sitting resumed.

A point of order was raised by Serge Cardin asking that the Committee reconsider its decision taken on February 24, 2009 to complete the clause-by-clause study of Bill C-2 on March 3, 2009, due to the fact that certain members were not allowed to fully participate in the debate on that motion before the vote.

RULING OF THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled that a decision once made cannot be questioned again but must stand as the judgement of the Committee, as provided on page 495 of House of Commons Procedure and Practice.

Whereupon, Peter Julian appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: “Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?” was put and the decision was sustained by a show of hands: YEAS: 8; NAYS: 3.

A point of order was raised by Peter Julian asking for a second vote on his appeal of the Chair’s decision, this time by a recorded division.

RULING OF THE CHAIR

The Chair ruled that the result of the vote by a show of hands was final and that the request for a recorded division should have been made when the vote was first taken.

Whereupon, Peter Julian appealed the decision of the Chair.

The question: “Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?” was put and the decision was overturned by a show of hands: YEAS: 5; NAYS: 6.

At 10:40 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:50 a.m., the sitting resumed.

Accordingly, the Chair proceeded to the taking of a recorded vote.

The question: “Shall the decision of the Chair be sustained?” was put again and the decision was sustained on the following recorded division: YEAS: Dean Allison, Ron Cannan, Richard Harris, Ed Holder, Gerald Keddy, Michael Savage, John Cannis, Mario Silva — 8; NAYS: Serge Cardin, Claude Guimond, Peter Julian — 3.

It was agreed, — That additional witnesses appear before the Committee in the first hour of the meeting on Tuesday, March 3, 2009 on Bill C-2; and that, pursuant to the motion adopted on February 24, 2009, the clause-by-clause consideration also be completed at that meeting.

At 11:02 a.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Jean-Marie David
Clerk of the Committee

2009/03/06 10:43 a.m.