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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
37th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 13

Wednesday, October 23, 2002

2:00 p.m.



Prayers

National Anthem

Statements By Members

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

Oral Questions

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

Daily Routine Of Business

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Manley (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance) laid upon the Table, — Proposals to amend the Parliament of Canada Act (Ethics Commissioner) and other Acts as a consequence. — Sessional Paper No. 8527-372-2.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Manley (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance) laid upon the Table, — Proposals to amend the Rules of the Senate and the Standing Orders of the House of Commons to implement the 1997 Milliken-Oliver Report. — Sessional Paper No. 8527-372-3.


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, — Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

— Nos. 371-0816, 371-0817 and 371-0818 concerning the protection of the environment. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-10-01;

— Nos. 371-0836, 371-0837, 371-0838 and 371-0839 concerning Canadian foreign policy. — Sessional Paper No. 8545-372-11-01.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Rock (Minister of Industry) , seconded by Mr. Boudria (Minister of State and Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , Bill C-15, An Act to amend the Lobbyists Registration Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Statements by Ministers

Pursuant to Standing Order 33(1), Mr. Manley (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance) made a statement.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Bélair (Timmins—James Bay) presented the Report of the Canadian Group of the Canada-France Inter-Parliamentary Association concerning its participation at the French Presidential Election, held in Paris, France, from April 29 to May 6, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-372-55-01.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Volpe (Eglinton—Lawrence) presented the Report of the Canada-China Legislative Association respecting its participation at the Fifth Bilateral Meeting held in Shanghai, Chengdu, Lhasa Xi'an, Dunhuang and Beijing from May 18 to 28, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-372-68-01.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Lincoln (Lac-Saint-Louis) presented the Report of the Canadian delegation of the Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the Fifth Conference of Parliamentarians of the Arctic Region held in Tromso, Norway, from August 11 to 13, 2002. — Sessional Paper No. 8565-372-51-02.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) , seconded by Mr. Martin (Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca) , Bill C-237, An Act to amend the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) , seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) , Bill C-238, An Act to establish the rights of patients in relation to health, treatment and records, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) , seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) , Bill C-239, An Act to amend the Food and Drugs Act (process for approval of new drugs), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) , seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) , Bill C-240, An Act establishing A Day for Hearts: Congenital Heart Defect Awareness Day, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest) , seconded by Mr. MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) , Bill C-241, An Act to assist in the prevention of wrongdoing in the Public Service by establishing a framework for education on ethical practices in the workplace, for dealing with allegations of wrongdoing and for protecting whistleblowers, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Pankiw (Saskatoon—Humboldt) , seconded by Mr. Anders (Calgary West) , Bill C-242, An Act to provide for a referendum to determine whether Canadians wish medically unnecessary abortions to be insured services under the Canada Health Act and to amend the Referendum Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Cadman (Surrey North) , seconded by Mr. Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands) , Bill C-243, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (abduction), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Bailey (Souris—Moose Mountain) , seconded by Mr. Williams (St. Albert) , Bill C-244, An Act requiring the national flag of Canada to be flown at half-mast on Remembrance Day, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) , seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley) , Bill C-245, An Act to amend the Divorce Act (shared parenting), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) , seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley) , Bill C-246, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (child adoption expenses), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) , seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley) , Bill C-247, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (conditional sentencing), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) , seconded by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley) , Bill C-248, An Act to amend the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (trafficking in a controlled drug or substance within five hundred metres of an elementary school or a high school), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

— by Mr. Peric (Cambridge) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0186);

— by Mr. Vellacott (Saskatoon—Wanuskewin) , twelve concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0187 to 372-0198) and two concerning unborn children (Nos. 372-0199 and 372-0200);

— by Mr. Reed (Halton) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0201);

— by Mrs. Ur (Lambton—Kent—Middlesex) , two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0202 and 372-0203);

— by Mr. Doyle (St. John's East) , one concerning children's rights (No. 372-0204);

— by Mr. Hill (Prince George—Peace River) , three concerning the income tax system (Nos. 372-0205 to 372-0207);

— by Mr. Martin (Esquimalt—Juan de Fuca) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0208) and one concerning the Canadian Coast Guard (No. 372-0209);

— by Mr. Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls) , one concerning children's rights (No. 372-0210);

— by Mr. LeBlanc (Beauséjour—Petitcodiac) , one concerning pornography (No. 372-0211);

— by Mr. Forseth (New Westminster—Coquitlam—Burnaby) , four concerning children's rights (Nos. 372-0212 to 372-0215);

— by Mrs. Wayne (Saint John) , one concerning children's rights (No. 372-0216);

— by Mr. Stinson (Okanagan—Shuswap) , eight concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0217 to 372-0224) and one concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (No. 372-0225);

— by Mr. Farrah (Bonaventure—Gaspé—Îles-de-la-Madeleine—Pabok) , one concerning genetic engineering (No. 372-0226), one concerning pornography (No. 372-0227) and one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0228);

— by Mr. Casey (Cumberland—Colchester) , two concerning children's rights (Nos. 372-0229 and 372-0230);

— by Mr. MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough) , one concerning children's rights (No. 372-0231) and one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0232);

— by Mr. Bailey (Souris—Moose Mountain) , two concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0233 and 372-0234) and one concerning stem cell research (No. 372-0235);

— by Mr. Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands) , three concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0236 to 372-0238);

— by Mr. Keddy (South Shore) , five concerning pornography (Nos. 372-0239 to 372-0243);

— by Mrs. Longfield (Whitby—Ajax) , three concerning children's rights (Nos. 372-0244 to 372-0246) and one concerning pornography (No. 372-0247).

DEFERRED RECORDED DIVISIONS

Government Orders

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of Natural Resources) , seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada) , — That Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Nuclear Safety and Control Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Ms. Girard-Bujold (Jonquière) , seconded by Mr. Paquette (Joliette) , — That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word “That” and substituting the following:

“Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Nuclear Safety and Control Act, be not now read a second time but that it be read a second time this day six months hence.”.

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 10 -- Vote no 10)

YEAS: 30, NAYS: 175

YEAS -- POUR
Bachand (Saint-Jean)
Bigras
Bourgeois
Brien
Cardin
Crête
Dalphond-Guiral
Desrochers
Gagnon (Québec)
Girard-Bujold
Godin
Guay
Guimond
Laframboise
Lalonde
Lanctôt
Lebel
Lill
Loubier
Martin (Winnipeg Centre)
Masse
McDonough
Ménard
Paquette
Perron
Picard (Drummond)
Proctor
Rocheleau
Roy
Tremblay -- 30
NAYS -- CONTRE
Abbott
Ablonczy
Adams
Alcock
Allard
Anders
Anderson (Cypress Hills—Grasslands)
Anderson (Victoria)
Assadourian
Augustine
Bagnell
Bailey
Barnes (London West)
Barnes (Gander—Grand Falls)
Beaumier
Bélanger
Bellemare
Bertrand
Bevilacqua
Binet
Blondin-Andrew
Bonwick
Borotsik
Boudria
Bradshaw
Breitkreuz
Brison
Brown
Bryden
Bulte
Burton
Byrne
Cadman
Calder
Cannis
Caplan
Carignan
Carroll
Casey
Castonguay
Catterall
Cauchon
Charbonneau
Chatters
Clark
Coderre
Copps
Cotler
Cullen
Cuzner
Day
DeVillers
Dion
Dromisky
Drouin
Duncan
Duplain
Easter
Efford
Eggleton
Elley
Eyking
Farrah
Finlay
Fitzpatrick
Fontana
Forseth
Fry
Gallant
Godfrey
Goldring
Goodale
Gouk
Grose
Harb
Harris
Harvard
Harvey
Hill (Macleod)
Hill (Prince George--Peace River)
Hilstrom
Ianno
Jackson
Johnston
Jordan
Karetak-Lindell
Karygiannis
Keddy (South Shore)
Kenney (Calgary Southeast)
Keyes
Kilgour (Edmonton Southeast)
Kraft Sloan
LeBlanc
Lee
Leung
Lincoln
Longfield
Lunn (Saanich—Gulf Islands)
Lunney (Nanaimo—Alberni)
MacKay (Pictou—Antigonish—Guysborough)
Macklin
Malhi
Maloney
Manley
Marcil
Mark
Martin (Esquimalt--Juan de Fuca)
Matthews
McCormick
McGuire
McKay (Scarborough East)
McTeague
Meredith
Merrifield
Mills (Red Deer)
Minna
Murphy
Myers
Nault
Neville
O'Brien (London--Fanshawe)
O'Reilly
Obhrai
Owen
Pacetti
Pagtakhan
Patry
Penson
Peric
Peterson
Pillitteri
Pratt
Price
Proulx
Rajotte
Redman
Reed (Halton)
Regan
Reid (Lanark—Carleton)
Ritz
Rock
Saada
Savoy
Scherrer
Schmidt
Scott
Sgro
Shepherd
Simard
Skelton
Sorenson
Speller
Spencer
Steckle
Stewart
Stinson
Strahl
Szabo
Thibault (West Nova)
Thibeault (Saint-Lambert)
Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest)
Tonks
Torsney
Ur
Valeri
Vanclief
Vellacott
Volpe
Wappel
Wayne
Whelan
White (Langley--Abbotsford)
Wilfert
Williams
Wood -- 175
PAIRED -- PAIRÉS
Asselin
Bergeron
Collenette
Dhaliwal
Duceppe
Fournier
Gagnon (Champlain)
Knutson
McCallum
Paradis
Robillard
St-Hilaire

Government Orders

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Dhaliwal (Minister of Natural Resources) , seconded by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada) , — That Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Nuclear Safety and Control Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs, Northern Development and Natural Resources.

The debate continued.

Mr. Regan (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) , seconded by Mr. Harvey (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport) , moved, — That this question be now put.

Debate arose thereon.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Finance) , seconded by Ms. Augustine (Secretary of State (Multiculturalism) (Status of Women)) , — That Bill C-3, An Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan and the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Finance.

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until Tuesday, October 29, 2002, at the expiry of the time provided for Oral Questions.

Messages from the Senate

A Message was received from the Senate as follows:

— ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the names of the Honourable Senators appointed to serve on the Standing Joint Committees are as follows:

LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT

The Honourable Senators Bolduc, Forrestall, Morin, Lapointe and Poy.

SCRUTINY OF REGULATIONS

The Honourable Senators Biron, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Kelleher, Moore, Nolin and Phalen.

Returns and Reports Deposited with the Clerk of the House

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

— by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) — Report of the Old Port of Montreal Corporation Inc., together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, ch. F-11, sbs. 150(1). — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-618-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates)

— by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) — Report of the Canada Lands Company Limited for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-630-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

— by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) — Reports of the Department of Transport for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). — Sessional Paper No. 8561-372-690-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

— by Mr. Graham (Minister of Foreign Affairs) — Report on the implementation of the Convention on Combating Bribery of Foreign Public Officials in International Business Transactions, and the enforcement of the Corruption of Foreign Public Officials Act, pursuant to the Corruption of Foreign Public Officials Act, S.C. 1998, c. 34, s. 12. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-736-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

— by Mr. Vanclief (Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food) — Report of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Canadian Food Inspection Agency Act, S.C. 1997, c. 6, s. 23. — Sessional Paper No. 8560-372-48-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

Adjournment

At 6:25 p.m., by unanimous consent, the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).