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Meeting No. 35

Thursday, October 25, 2001

The Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights met in a televised session at 9:37 a.m. this day, in Room 237-C, Centre Block, the Chair, Andy Scott, presiding.

Members of the Committee present: Carole-Marie Allard, Michel Bellehumeur, Bill Blaikie, Chuck Cadman, Irwin Cotler, Paul DeVillers, Ivan Grose, Peter MacKay, John Maloney, John McKay, Lynn Myers, Stephen Owen, Denis Paradis, Andy Scott, Kevin Sorenson, Myron Thompson, Vic Toews.

Acting Members present: Brian Fitzpatrick for Myron Thompson.

Associate Members present: Derek Lee.

In attendance: From Committees and Legislative Services: Richard Dupuis, Legislative Clerk. From the Library of Parliament: Philip Rosen, senior analyst.

Appearing: From the Department of Finance: Jim Peterson, Secretary of State (International Financial Institution). From the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency : The Hon. Martin Cauchon, Minister of National Revenue, Canada Customs and Revenue Agency.

Witnesses: From the Department of Finance Canada: Yvan Roy, Assistant Deputy Minister and Counsel to the Department of Finance; Richard Lalonde, Chief, Financial Crimes, Financial Sector Policy Branch; Robert Dubrule, Senior Tax Policy Officer, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch; Brian Ernewein, Director, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch; Charles Seeto, Director, Financial Sector Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch; Horst Intscher, Director, Financial transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada; Yvon Carrière, Senior Counsel, Financial Transactions and Reports Analysis Centre of Canada. From the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions Canada: Alain Prévost, General Counsel. From the Royal Canadian Mounted Police: Dave Beer, Superintendent, Proceeds of Crime Branch. From the Department of the Solicitor General of Canada: Paul Kennedy, Senior Assistant Deputy Solicitor General, Policing and Security; Ian Blackie, Chief, Counter-Terrorism Policy. From the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency: Ed Gauthier, Acting Assistant Commissioner, Policy and Legislation Branch; Donna Walsh, Director, Special Compliance Initiative Division, Charities Director, Policy and Legislation Branch.

Pursuant to its Order of Reference of Thursday, October 18, 2001, the Committee resumed consideration of Bill C-36, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Official Secrets Act, the Canada Evidence Act, the Proceeds of Crime (Money Laundering) Act and other Acts, and to enact measures respecting the registration of charities in order to combat terrorism (See Minutes of Proceedings, Thursday, October 18, 2001, Meeting No. 29).

The Honourable Jim Peterson made a statement and with Yvan Roy, Richard Lalonde, Charles Seeto, Horst Intscher, answered questions.

At 11:31 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:37 a.m., the sitting resumed.

The Honourable Martin Cauchon made a statement and, with the other witnesses, answered questions.

At 12:52 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 1:00 p.m., the sitting resumed, in camera.

Ordered - That pursuant to the Order of the House of Wednesday, September 26, 2001, the Chair request by means of a report to the House, a two week extension to the deadline of November 30, 2001, for reporting Bill C-15B, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals and firearms) and the Firearms Act.


Agreed - that officials from the office of the Attorney Generals of the provinces of Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia be invited to speak to Bill C-36.


Agreed - that the proposed work plan for Bills C-36 and C-15B as well as the witness list for Bill C-36 be adopted with the agreement that these would be reviewed if the Committee receives the extension requested from the House of Commons for reporting of Bill C-15B.

At 1:30 p.m., the Committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

Catherine Barrette / Marie Danielle Vachon




Clerks of the Committee