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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 2nd SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 132

Thursday, October 19, 2000

9:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 9:10 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7) and Order made Tuesday, October 17, 2000, the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Alarie (Louis-Hébert), seconded by Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should make labelling of genetically modified foods compulsory, and should carry out exhaustive studies on the long-term effects of these foods on health and the environment. (Private Members' Business M-230)

The debate continued.

At 9:56 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 93, the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Order made Tuesday, October 17, 2000, the recorded division was deferred until immediately after consideration of Ways and Means Motion No. 13 later this day.

INTERRUPTION

At 9:57 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 10:01 a.m., the sitting resumed.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

-- P.C. 2000-1514. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-2-08. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food);

-- P.C. 2000-1511 and P.C. 2000-1512. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-10-09. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans);

-- P.C. 2000-1508. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-8-17. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade);

-- P.C. 2000-1510 and P.C. 2000-1513. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-16-17. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities);

-- P.C. 2000-1509. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-362-5-14. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs).


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Lee (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 362-1304 and 362-1505 concerning radio and television programming. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-52-03;

-- No. 362-1546 concerning conscientious objection. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-120-01;

-- No. 362-1575 concerning the Senate. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-38-13;

-- No. 362-1646 concerning gasoline additives. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-33-10;

-- No. 362-1660 concerning pay equity. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-41-04;

-- No. 362-1704 concerning the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-39-03;

-- No. 362-1727 concerning breast cancer. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-65-15;

-- No. 362-1728 concerning the labelling of food products. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-362-29-22.

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds -- Dollard) presented the Report of the Canadian parliamentary delegation of the Assemblée parlementaire de la Francophonie (APF) respecting its participation at the meeting of the APF Bureau meeting, held in Yaounde, Cameroon, on July 4, 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-362-52-04.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Patry (Pierrefonds -- Dollard) presented the Report of the Canadian parliamentary delegation of the Assemblée parlementaire de la Francophonie (APF) respecting its participation at the XXVIth ordinary session of the APF, held in Yaounde, Cameroon, from July 6 to 8, 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-362-52-05.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Graham (Toronto Centre -- Rosedale) presented the Report of the Canadian delegation of the Canada-Europe Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the ninth annual session of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe Parliamentary Assembly, held in Bucharest, Romania, on July 6 to 10, 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-362-61-05.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. DeVillers (Simcoe North), from the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, presented the Ninth Report of the Committee (Combatting Organized Crime). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-107.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the Committee requested that the government table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 63) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), seconded by Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi -- Baie-James -- Nunavik), Bill C-511, An Act to amend the Canadian Peacekeeping Service Medal Act (Book of Remembrance for peacekeepers), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Nystrom (Regina -- Qu'Appelle), seconded by Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), Bill C-512, An Act to amend the Canada Pension Plan, the Government Annuities Act and the Old Age Security Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. White (North Vancouver), one concerning the Canadian national anthem (No. 362-1780);

-- by Mr. St-Julien (Abitibi -- Baie-James -- Nunavik), seven concerning the national debt (Nos. 362-1781 to 362-1787);

-- by Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), one concerning the agricultural industry (No. 362-1788) and one concerning nuclear weapons (No. 362-1789);

-- by Mr. Sekora (Port Moody -- Coquitlam -- Port Coquitlam), one concerning the Criminal Code of Canada (No. 362-1790) and one concerning health care services (No. 362-1791);

-- by Mr. Harb (Ottawa Centre), one concerning pay equity (No. 362-1792);

-- by Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Côte-de-Beaupré -- Île d'Orléans), one concerning China (No. 362-1793).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gray (Deputy Prime Minister), -- That this House support the economic policies of the government; (Government Business No. 13)

And of the amendment of Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

    ``this House condemns the government for failing to provide the vision and leadership that Canadians need as they face a new century with new challenges and opportunities, for burdening Canadians with personal income tax levels that are the highest among the world's largest economies, for allowing incomes and productivity to fall behind the United States and other countries, for creating a mountain of debt for their children and grandchildren to bear, for causing long waits for medical treatment by making deep cuts to health care which have yet to be fully restored; and
    That this House condemns the government for its arrogance in giving grants and contracts to political supporters, and in mismanaging billions of taxpayers' dollars in grants and contributions over its seven years in office.'';

And of the sub-amendment of Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Ms. Picard (Drummond), -- That the amendment be amended by adding after the word ``restored'' the following:

    ``, for not having given enough tax relief to lower-and middle- income families and too much relief to high-income earners, for having done nothing to resolve the Employment Insurance problem, for not having solved the social housing problem and for not having indexed the Canadian Social Transfer, for having provided those who are most in need with completely inadequate compensation for the rise in oil prices, and for having done nothing to help the trucking, taxi and agricultural industries facing this crisis;''.

The debate resumed.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That debate on Government Business No. 13 be adjourned at 1:45 p.m. today;

That, at that time, the Order referring Bill C-45, An Act respecting the provision of increased funding for health care services, medical equipment, health information and communications technologies, early childhood development and other social services and to amend the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act, to the Standing Committee on Finance be discharged and the Bill referred to a Committee of the Whole, and the House resolve itself immediately into Committee of the Whole to consider the Bill; and

That at 1:59 p.m. today, any remaining stages of consideration of the Bill, with any amendments adopted in Committee of the Whole, be deemed disposed of, up to and including third reading and passage.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Gray (Deputy Prime Minister), -- That this House support the economic policies of the government; (Government Business No. 13)

And of the amendment of Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island);

And of the sub-amendment of Mr. Loubier (Saint- Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Ms. Picard (Drummond).

The debate resumed.


At 1:45 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier this day, the House resolved itself into a Committee of the Whole to consider Bill C-45, An Act respecting the provision of increased funding for health care services, medical equipment, health information and communications technologies, early childhood development and other social services and to amend the Federal-Provincial Fiscal Arrangements Act.

The Committee considered the Bill and at 1:59 p.m., pursuant to Order made earlier this day, reported it with the following amendments:

    Clause 2
      Replace line 14 on page 2 with the following:
      "the trust, taking into account the population of that province."
    Clause 3
      Replace lines 20 to 24 on page 2 with the following:
      "ter of Health, for the purpose of defining standards governing shared data to ensure the compatibility of health information networks."

Pursuant to Order made earlier this day, the Bill, as amended, was deemed concurred in at report stage and deemed read a third time and passed.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

WAYS AND MEANS

The Order was read for consideration of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Income Tax Act (Sessional Paper No. 8570-362-21), notice of which was laid upon the Table on Wednesday, October 18, 2000. (Ways and Means Proceedings No. 13)

Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That the motion be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 1427)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clark -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cotler -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- St-Jacques -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 151

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Gruending -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harris -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Konrad -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Marceau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Proctor -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Venne -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- Williams -- 82

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

Pursuant to Order made Tuesday, October 17, 2000, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Alarie (Louis-Hébert), seconded by Mrs. Tremblay (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should make labelling of genetically modified foods compulsory, and should carry out exhaustive studies on the long-term effects of these foods on health and the environment. (Private Members' Business M-230)

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 1428)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Caccia -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Fournier -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Gruending -- Guay -- Guimond -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jaffer -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Marceau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Price -- Proctor -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- Stinson -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean -- Saguenay) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski-Neigette-et-la Mitis) -- Venne -- 61

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Anders -- Anderson -- Augustine -- Bakopanos -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bellemare -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Calder -- Cannis -- Carroll -- Casson -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Clark -- Clouthier -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dion -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Gagliano -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harris -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hubbard -- Johnston -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Konrad -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Longfield -- Lowther -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Mills --  (Toronto -- Danforth) -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Penson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Proulx -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Saada -- Sgro -- Shepherd -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 114

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Human Resources Development), seconded by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), -- That Bill C-44, An Act to amend the Employment Insurance Act, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

The debate continued.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by the Speaker -- Minutes of Proceedings of the Board of Internal Economy of the House of Commons for September 26, 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8527-362-27.

-- by the Speaker -- Report of the Committees Activities and Expenditures for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8527-362-28.

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Report of the Administrator of the Ship-source Oil Pollution Fund for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Act to amend the Canada Shipping Act and to amend the Arctic Waters Pollution Prevention Act and the Oil and Gas Production and Conservation Act in consequence thereof, R.S. 1985, c. 6 (3rd Supp.), s. 84. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-606-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report of the Parks Canada Agency, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Parks Canada Agency Act, S.C. 1998, c. 31, sbs. 34(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-362-742-01. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Mr. Duhamel (Minister of Veterans Affairs) -- Reports of the Department of Veterans Affairs for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2000, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-362-708-02. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. MacAulay (Solicitor General of Canada) -- Response of the goverment, pursuant to Standing Order 109, to the Third Report of the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights, "A Work in Progress: The Corrections and Conditional Release Act" (Sessional Paper No. 8510-362-62), presented in the House on Monday, May 29, 2000. -- Sessional Paper No. 8512-362-62-01.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), four concerning marriage (Nos. 362-1794 to 362-1797), one concerning the tax system (No. 362-1798), one concerning the income tax system (No. 362-1799), five concerning pornography (Nos. 362-1800 to 362-1804) and two concerning the Divorce Act (Nos. 362- 1805 and 362-1806).

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 5:30 p.m., by unanimous consent, the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 5:48 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).