PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 1st Report of the Committee, which was as follows:

The Committee recommends, pursuant to Standing Orders 104 and 114, that the list of members and associate members for Standing Committees of this House be as follows:

Aboriginal Affairs and Northern
Development

Members Claude Bachand Derrek Konrad John Bryden Judi Longfield John Finlay Grant McNally Ghislain Fournier Lawrence O'Brien Louise Hardy Bernard Patry David Iftody Guy Saint-Julien Nancy Karetak-Lindell Mike Scott Gerald Keddy Bryon Wilfert-(16)

Associate Members Cliff Breitkreuz Reed Elley René Canuel Maurice Godin Bill Casey Rick Laliberté Pierre de Savoye Maurice Vellacott Gordon Earle

Agriculture and Agri-Food

itMembers Hélène Alarie John Harvard Leon Benoit Jay Hill Paul Bonwick Jake Hoeppner Rick Borotsik Larry McCormick Gerry Byrne Joe McGuire Murray Calder Dick Proctor Jean-Guy Chrétien Paul Steckle Denis Coderre Rose-Marie Ur-(16)

Associate Members Pierre Brien Réjean Lefebvre Rick Casson Lorne Nystrom Odina Desrochers Gilles Perron Michelle Dockrill Greg Thompson Howard Hilstrom Myron Thompson Allan Kerpan

Canadian Heritage

Members Jim Abbott Eric Lowther Mauril Bélanger Dennis Mills Paul Bonwick Mark Muise Sarmite Bulte Deepak Obhrai John Godfrey Pat O'Brien Joe Jordan Jacques Saada Wendy Lill Caroline St-Hilaire Clifford Lincoln Suzanne Tremblay-(16)

Associate Members André Bachand Christiane Gagnon Claude Bachand Monique Guay Cliff Breitkreuz Rick Laliberté Pierre Brien Francine Lalonde Antoine Dubé Inky Mark Maurice Dumas Louis Plamondon Gordon Earle Benoît Sauvageau

Citizenship and Immigration

Members Jean Augustine John McKay Sarmite Bulte Grant McNally Stan Dromisky Réal Ménard Gordon Earle Maria Minna Raymonde Folco Deepak Obhrai Monique Guay John Reynolds M. Sophia Leung Jacques Saada Steve Mahoney Diane St-Jacques-(16)

Associate Members Claude Bachand Patrick Martin Pierre Brien Benoît Sauvageau Libby Davies Daniel Turp Norman Doyle

Environment and Sustainable Development

Members Bernard Bigras Bill Gilmour Charles Caccia John Herron Chuck Cadman Joe Jordan Aileen Carroll Gar Knutson Rick Casson Karen Kraft Sloan Yvon Charbonneau Rick Laliberté Christiane Gagnon Dan McTeague Roger Gallaway David Pratt-(16)

Associate Members Hélène Alarie Maurice Godin Gérard Asselin Louise Hardy Leon Benoit David Price Pierre Brien Benoît Sauvageau John Duncan Peter Stoffer Paul Forseth Stéphan Tremblay

Finance

Members Mark Assad Gary Pillitteri Maurizio Bevilacqua Karen Redman Roger Gallaway Nelson Riis Dick Harris Gerry Ritz David Iftody Monte Solberg Jim Jones Paul Szabo Yvan Loubier Paddy Torsney Gilles Perron Tony Valeri-(16)

Associate Members Pierre Brien Francine Lalonde Scott Brison René Laurin Jocelyne G. Bujold Alexa McDonough Odina Desrochers Lorne Nystrom Antoine Dubé Pauline Picard Jason Kenny Yves Rocheleau

Fisheries and Oceans

Members George Baker M. Sophia Leung Yvan Bernier Gary Lunn John Duncan Bill Matthews Wayne Easter Lawrence O'Brien Reed Elley Carmen Provenzano Charles Hubbard Yves Rocheleau Nancy Karetak-Lindell Paul Steckle Gar Knutson Peter Stoffer-(16)

Associate Members Gilles Bernier Philip Mayfield René Canuel Svend Robinson Paul Forseth Mike Scott Ghislain Fournier Angela Vautour Bill Gilmour

Foreign Affairs and International Trade

Members Sarkis Assadourian Ted McWhinney Jean Augustine Bob Mills Colleen Beaumier Denis Paradis Réginald Bélair Charlie Penson Scott Brison Julian Reed John Cannis Svend Robinson Bill Graham Benoît Sauvageau Gurmant Grewal Daniel Turp-(16)

Associate Members Claude Bachand Keith Martin Bill Blaikie Paul Mercier Maud Debien Lorne Nystrom Monique Guay Deepak Obhrai Jason Kenney Charlie Power Gary Lunn Pierrette Venne Richard Marceau

Health

Members Carolyn Bennett Lynn Myers Elinor Caplan Beth Phinney Aileen Carroll Pauline Picard Claude Drouin Greg Thompson Maurice Dumas Rose-Marie Ur Reed Elley Maurice Vellacott Grant Hill Joseph Volpe Dan McTeague Judy Wasylycia-Leis-(16)

Associate Members Pierre Brien Sharon Hayes Libby Davies John Herron Pierre de Savoye Réal Ménard Michelle Dockrill Caroline St-Hilaire Antoine Dubé Stéphan Tremblay Christiane Gagnon

Human Resources Development and the
Status of Persons with Disabilities

Members Diane Ablonczy Paul Crête Reg Alcock Libby Davies Rob Anders Pierre de Savoye Carolyn Bennett Jean Dubé Claudette Bradshaw Albina Guarnieri Bonnie Brown Dale Johnston Brenda Chamberlain Larry McCormick Joe Comuzzi Bob Nault-(16)

Associate Members Yvan Bernier Wendy Lill Pierre Brien Inky Mark Jocelyne G. Bujold Patrick Martin Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral Réal Ménard Antoine Dubé Lorne Nystrom Reed Elley Yves Rocheleau Yvon Godin Diane St-Jacques Sharon Hayes Stéphan Tremblay

Industry

Members Chris Axworthy Eric Lowther Eugène Bellemare Ian Murray Bonnie Brown Jim Pankiw Antoine Dubé Janko Peric Tony Ianno Charlie Power Marlene Jennings Werner Schmidt Francine Lalonde Alex Shepherd Walt Lastewka Susan Whelan-(16)

Associate Members Hélène Alarie Rahim Jaffer Bernard Bigras Philip Mayfield Pierre Brien Réal Ménard Jocelyne G. Bujold Benoît Sauvageau Chuck Cadman John Solomon Jean Dubé Peter Stoffer Christiane Gagnon

Justice and Human Rights

Members Eleni Bakopanos Derek Lee Michel Bellehumeur Peter MacKay Garry Breitkreuz Gurbax malhi Shaughnessy Cohen John Maloney Paul DeVillers Peter Mancini Nick Discepola Richard Marceau Sheila Finestone Jack Ramsay Paul Forseth Andrew Telegdi-(16)

Associate Members Cliff Breitkreuz Howard Hilstrom Pierre Brien Allan Kerpan Chuck Cadman Keith Martin Madeleine Dalphond-Guiral Réal Ménard Pierre de Savoye Mark Muise Christiane Gagnon Svend Robinson Michel Guimond Caroline St-Hilaire Louise Hardy Myron Thompson Sharon Hayes Stéphan Tremblay

National Defence and Veterans Affairs

Members Leon Benoit John O'Reilly Robert Bertrand David Pratt Hec Clouthier David Price Maurice Godin Dick Proctor Peter Goldring George Proud Art Hanger John Richardson Judi Longfield Pierrette Venne Pat O'Brien Bob Wood-(16)

Associate Members Pierre Brien Bob Mills Jim Hart Daniel Turp Peter Mancini Elsie Wayne Patrick Martin

Natural Resources and Government Operations

Members Gérard Asselin Jim Gouk Gilles Bernier Ovid Jackson Jocelyne G. Bujold Jerry Pickard Gerry Byrne Carmen Provenzano David Chatters Ben Serré Roy Cullen Brent St. Denis Raymonde Folco Darrel Stinson Yvon Godin Bob Wood-(16)

Associate Members Hélène Alarie Bill Gilmour Chris Axworthy Gerald Keddy Bernard Bigras Derrek Konrad Pierre Brien René Laurin René Canuel Réjean Lefebvre Jean-Guy Chrétien Gilles Perron Ghislain Fournier Angela Vautour

Public Accounts

Members Mark Assad René Laurin André Bachand Steve Mahoney Sue Barnes Philip Mayfield Elinor Caplan Lynn Myers Odina Desrochers Lorne Nystrom Gurmant Grewal Rey Pagtakhan Ivan Grose Andrew Telegdi Mac Harb John Williams-(17) Jason Kenney

Associate Members Roy Bailey Michel Guimond Garry Breitkreuz Jim Jones Jocelyne G. Bujold Derrek Konrad Rick Casson Gilles Perron Bev Desjarlais Peter Stoffer Antoine Dubé

Transport

Members Roy Bailey Joe Fontana Ray Bonin Ivan Grose Murray Calder Michel Guimond John Cannis Stan Keyes Bill Casey Inky Mark Roy Cullen Paul Mercier Bev Desjarlais Lee Morrison Claude Drouin Carolyn Parrish-(16)

Associate Members Chris Axworthy John Cummins Yvan Bernier Ghislain Fournier Rick Borotsik Rick Laliberté Pierre Brien Yves Rocheleau Paul Crête

Pursuant to Standing Order 104(3), the Committee further recommends that the list of members and associate members for Standing Joint Committees of this House be as follows:

Library of Parliament

Members Marlene Catterall Gurbax Malhi Hec Clouthier Philip Mayfield John Finlay Paul Mercier Deborah Grey Louis Plamondon Howard Hilstrom David Price Jim Karygiannis Karen Redman Raymond Lavigne Jacques Saada Wendy Lill Brent St. Denis-(16)

Associate Members Libby Davies Maurice Dumas

Official Languages

Members Sarkis Assadourian Rahim Jaffer Eugène Bellemare Bob Kilger Claudette Bradshaw Ted McWhinney Cliff Breitkreuz Val Meredith Denis Coderre Denis Paradis Sheila Finestone Louis Plamondon John Godfrey Diane St-Jacques Yvon Godin Suzanne Tremblay-(16)

Associate Members Pierre Brien Angela Vautour Lorne Nystrom

Scrutiny of Regulations

Members John Bryden Inky Mark Bill Casey John McKay Paul DeVillers Ian Murray Ken Epp Lorne Nystrom Marlene Jennings Alex Shepherd Derek Lee Caroline St-Hilaire Gary Lunn Tom Wappel John Maloney Ted White-(17) Richard Marceau

Associate Members Chris Axworthy Michel Guimond Michel Bellehumeur

It is further recommended that a message be sent to the Senate to acquaint their Honours of the names of the members to serve on behalf of this House on the Standing Joint Committees.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 1, which includes this Report) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Thompson (Wild Rose), seconded by M. Cadman (Surrey North), Bill C-219, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (using or operating a stolen motor vehicle in the commission of an offence), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Wappel (Scarborough Southwest), seconded by Mr. Speller (Haldimand -- Norfolk -- Brant), Bill C-220, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Copyright Act (profit from authorship respecting a crime), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Cullen (Etobicoke North), seconded by Mr. Reed (Halton), Bill C-221, An Act to amend the Canada Business Corporations Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Obhrai (Calgary East), seconded by Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), Bill C-222, An Act to require that in the advertising and at the opening of a cultural project supported by public money a public acknowledgement be made of the grant and the percentage of the total cost that the grant represents, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hoeppner (Portage -- Lisgar), seconded by Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), Bill C-223, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (deduction of interest on mortgage loans), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), seconded by Mr. Coderre (Bourassa), moved, -- That the 1st Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented earlier today, be concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), one concerning the highway system (No. 361-0032).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), moved, -- That this House condemn the government for making their 50/50 election promise on any future surpluses without adequate public debate as to the optimal size of government, taxes, and debt, thus threatening to repeat Canada's 27 year old history of irresponsible spending, creating high debt, financed by high taxes, causing high unemployment.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Solberg (Medicine Hat), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), in relation to the Business of Supply.

The debate continued.

At 6:15 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division--Vote N^o 4)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Ablonczy -- Alarie -- Anders -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bigras -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Cadman -- Canuel -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Dubé --  (Lévis) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Elley -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Konrad -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Martin --  (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca) -- Mayfield -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mills --  (Red Deer) -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Pankiw -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Vellacott -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- White --  (North Vancouver) -- 88

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Finlay -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Acadie -- Bathurst) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Shepherd -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Charlotte) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Vautour -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 178

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Beaumier -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Chan -- Desrochers -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Fournier -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Lebel -- Venne

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Report on Transportation in Canada for the year 1996, pursuant to the Canada Transportation Act, S.C. 1996, c. 10, sbs. 52(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-79. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Reports of the Department of Canadian Heritage for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-849. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Report on the Operations of the Exchange Fund Account, together with the Auditor General's Report, for the year ended December 31, 1996, pursuant to the Currency Act, R.S. 1985, c. C-52, sbs. 21(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-133. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West), one concerning nudity (No. 361-0033);

-- by Mr. Manning (Calgary Southwest), one concerning the Food and Drugs Act (No. 361-0034), and one concerning parental rights (No. 361-0035).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:47 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 2:00 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).