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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 034

Thursday, November 20, 1997

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Cullen (Etobicoke North), from the Standing Committee on Transport, presented the 1st Report of the Committee (Bill C-9, An Act for making the system of Canadian ports competitive, efficient and commercially oriented, providing for the establishing of port authorities and the divesting of certain harbours and ports, for the commercialization of the St. Lawrence Seaway and ferry services and other matters related to maritime trade and transport and amending the Pilotage Act and amending and repealing other Acts as a consequence, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-12.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 3, 4 and 5) was tabled.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Foreign Affairs), Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Competition Act and to make consequential and related amendments to other Acts, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), seconded by Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Foreign Affairs), Bill C-21, An Act to amend the Small Business Loans Act, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Recommendation
(Pursuant to Standing Order 79(2)
)

    His Excellency the Governor General recommends to the House of Commons the appropriation of public revenue under the circumstances, in the manner and for the purposes set out in a measure entitled "An Act to amend the Small Business Loans Act".

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Foreign Affairs), seconded by Mr. Manley (Minister of Industry), Bill C-22, An Act to implement the Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on their Destruction, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Bélanger (Ottawa -- Vanier), seconded by Mr. Cullen (Etobicoke North), Bill C-282, An Act to amend the Canada Health Act (linguistic duality), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Hoeppner (Portage -- Lisgar), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), Bill C-283, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act (audit), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), seconded by Mr. Elley (Nanaimo -- Cowichan), Bill C-284, An Act to amend the Criminal Records Act and the Canadian Human Rights Act (offences against children), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, Mr. Kenney (Calgary Southeast), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved, -- That this House, on behalf of all Canadians, convey its warm greetings and best wishes to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II and His Royal Highness the Duke of Edinburgh, on the happy occasion of their Golden Wedding Anniversary.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 26)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Anders -- Bailey -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Catterall -- Chatters -- Comuzzi -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Easter -- Elley -- Epp -- Harvey -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hoeppner -- Jaffer -- Kenney --  (Calgary-Sud-Est) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Konrad -- Lill -- Lowther -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Malhi -- Matthews -- McNally -- Morrison -- Myers -- Pickard --  (Kent -- Essex) -- Proctor -- Ritz -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 40

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- -- 0

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), one concerning children's rights (No. 361-0223) and one concerning parental rights (No. 361-0224).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food with amendments;

And of the motion in Group No. 1 (Motion No. 1).

Group No. 1

Motion No. 1 of Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That Bill C-4 be amended by adding before line 4 on page 1 the following:

      "0.1 The Canadian Wheat Board Act is amended by replacing the enacting phrase with the following:
    WHEREAS agriculture is a basic foundation stone of the Canadian economy; and
    WHEREAS interprovincial and export trade in grain produced in Canada is an essential element of the agricultural sector of the economy, and
    WHEREAS it is necessary to establish an organization to coordinate such trade; and
    WHEREAS such an organization will have a very significant effect on the producers of grain and must therefore have the securing of the best financial return to them as its object and first priority and must be accountable to them for its performance.
    THEREFORE Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:"

The debate continued on the motion in Group No. 1.

QUORUM

The attention of the Speaker was drawn to the lack of a quorum and, fewer than 20 members having been counted, pursuant to Standing Order 29(3), the bells were rung to call in the Members.

After one minute, a quorum was found.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food with amendments;

And of the motion in Group No. 1 (Motion No. 1).

The debate continued on the motion in Group No. 1.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division was deferred.

Group No. 2

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 2, -- That Bill C-4 be amended by deleting Clause 2.

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 31, -- That Bill C-4 be amended by deleting Clause 8.

Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), seconded by Mr. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), moved Motion No. 41, -- That Bill C-4 be amended by deleting Clause 24.

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 2, 31 and 41).

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 2, 31 and 41).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 2.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A message was received from the Senate informing this House that the Senate had passed the following Bill to which the concurrence of this House is desired:

    Bill S-3, An Act to amend the Pension Benefits Standards Act, 1985 and the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions Act.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage and second reading of Bill C-4, An Act to amend the Canadian Wheat Board Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, as reported by the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food with amendments;

And of the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 2, 31 and 41).

The debate continued on the motions in Group No. 2.

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 31 et 41, was deferred.

Group No. 4

Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), seconded by Mr. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), moved Motion No. 4, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended

    (a) by replacing lines 7 to 14 on page 3 with the following:
      "3.02 (1) The directors are elected in accordance with section 3.06 to 3.08 and the regulations. The president shall be appointed by the board."
    (b) by deleting lines 15 to 17 on page 3.

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved new Motion No. 5, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 7 to 14 on page 3 with the following:

      "3.02(1) Fifteen directors are elected in accordance with sections 3.06 to 3.08 and the regulations. The president shall be appointed by the board in consultation with the Minister."

Mr. Chrétien (Frontenac -- Mégantic), seconded by Ms. Alarie (Louis-Hébert), moved Motion No. 6, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 14 on page 3 with the following:

    "sultation with the other directors, and following the approval of the committee of the House of Commons that normally considers matters relating to agriculture."

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by deleting lines 22 to 24 on page 3.

Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 12 and 13 on page 4 with the following:

    "rum at the meetings, which shall be at least two-thirds of the board members and a ratio of two elected directors to one appointed director, and the confidentiality"

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 22 to 24 on page 4 with the following:

    "(e) the manner in which the board, in consultation with the Minister, may decide to remove the president and the manner in which the board, in consultation with the Minister, may implement a decision to remove the president."

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 10, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended

    (a) by adding after line 33 on page 4 the following:
      "(2) Producers shall be eligible for votes based on the following levels of production: For the purposes of this Act, 1 tonne of grain is defined as 1 tonne of wheat or 1.5 tonnes of barley. A producer will be eligible for 1 vote if they grow or market a minimum of 50 tonnes of grain in a given year. This information will be obtained from permit book records or in a signed affidavit submitted by the producer."
    (b) by replacing line 34 on page 4 with the following:
      " -- (3) After the date referred to in section 3.08,"

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 11, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 35 to 40 on page 4 with the following:

    "the board, in consultation with the Minister, shall make regulations respecting the election of directors, including geographical representation on the board and the staggering of the terms of office of directors."

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 12, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 41 to 45 on page 4 with the following:

      "3.07 After the date referred to in section 3.08, the board, in consultation with the Minister, shall determine the proper conduct and supervision of an election of directors, including"

Mr. Proctor (Palliser), seconded by Mr. Solomon (Regina -- Lumsden -- Lake Centre), moved Motion No. 13, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by adding after line 10 on page 5 the following:

      "(3) Directors shall be elected by producers on the basis of one vote per producer permit book
      (4) There shall be limits placed on the expenditures made by any candidate for election to the Board of Directors.
      (5) There shall be limits placed on the expenditures made by any third parties toward the election of candidates to the Board of Directors."

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 14, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 18 and 19 on page 5 with the following:

    "the pleasure of the board of directors for such term that the board of directors may determine."

Mr. Borotsik (Brandon -- Souris), seconded by Mr. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), moved Motion No. 15, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 18 and 19 on page 5 with the following:

    "pleasure for the term that the board of directors may determine."

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 16, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by adding after line 35 on page 5 with the following:

      "(2) The president shall implement measures to include the Canadian Wheat Board as a signatory to the International Code of Ethics for Canadian Business, no later than six months following the first election of the Board of Directors."

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 17, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 36 to 41 on page 5 with the following:

      "(3) If the president is absent or unable to act or the office of president is vacant, the board of directors, in consultation with the Minister, may appoint an interim president. An interim president shall not act for more than ninety days, unless approved by the board."

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 18, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 6 with the following:

    "view to the best interests of producers;"

Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), seconded by Mr. Breitkreuz (Yorkton -- Melville), moved Motion No. 19, -- That Bill C-4, in Clause 3, be amended by adding after line 9 on page 6 the following:

    "(c) comply with guidelines as established by the International Code of Ethics for Canadian Business."

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 4 (Motions Nos. 4 to 19).

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Industry of Bill C-203, An Act to amend the Agreement on Internal Trade Implementation Act.

Mr. Benoit (Lakeland), seconded by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Industry.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

INTERRUPTION

At 6:28 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 6:30 p.m., the sitting resumed.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:36 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).