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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 222

Wednesday, May 5, 1999

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

NATIONAL ANTHEM

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Knutson (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-2131 and 361-2132 concerning the mistreatment of animals. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-79F.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Mr. Williams (St. Albert), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 25th Report of the Committee (Main Estimates 1999-2000 -- Votes 25 and 30 under FINANCE). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-164.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meeting No. 59) was tabled.


Mr. Williams (St. Albert), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 26th Report of the Committee (Chapter 24 of the December 1998 Report of the Auditor General of Canada). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-165.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 58 and 61) was tabled.


Mr. Williams (St. Albert), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 27th Report of the Committee (Chapter 25 of the December 1998 Report of the Auditor General of Canada). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-166.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 57 and 61) was tabled.


Mr. Williams (St. Albert), from the Standing Committee on Public Accounts, presented the 28th Report of the Committee (Chapter 26 of the December 1998 Report of the Auditor General of Canada). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-167.

Pursuant to Standing Order 109, the government was requested by the Committee to table a comprehensive response.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 55 and 61) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Guimond (Beauport -- Montmorency -- Côte-de-Beaupré -- Île d'Orléans), seconded by Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), Bill C-507, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (child adoption expenses), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Stoffer (Sackville -- Musquodoboit Valley -- Eastern Shore), seconded by Ms. Lill (Dartmouth), Bill C-508, An Act to provide for a Hepatitis Awareness Month, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Gouk (Kootenay -- Boundary -- Okanagan), seconded by Mr. Gilmour (Nanaimo -- Alberni), Bill C-509, An Act to discontinue the retiring allowances payable to members of Parliament under the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and to include members of Parliament in the Public Service Superannuation Act and to discontinue members' tax free allowances for expenses and include the amount in members' sessional allowances, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was resolved, -- That during May, which is Hearing Month, this House recognize the importance for the public and private sectors to provide deaf and hard-of- hearing persons with the tools required for them to take their place in an increasingly communications-oriented world.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), one concerning human rights in Indonesia (No. 361-2368);

-- by Mr. Hart (Okanagan -- Coquihalla), one concerning the airline industry (No. 361-2369);

-- by Ms. Bakopanos (Ahuntsic), one concerning the former Yugoslavia (No. 361-2370);

-- by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), one concerning health care services (No. 361-2371);

-- by Mr. Mills (Red Deer), one concerning pornography (No. 361- 2372);

-- by Mrs. Ur (Lambton -- Kent -- Middlesex), one concerning gasoline additives (No. 361-2373);

-- by Mr. Gallaway (Sarnia -- Lambton), one concerning the Senate (No. 361-2374);

-- by Mr. Epp (Elk Island), two concerning the income tax system (Nos. 361-2375 and 361-2376).

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C- 66, An Act to amend the National Housing Act and the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act and to make a consequential amendment to another Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No. 3 (Motions Nos. 11, 12, 25, 27 to 34 and 36).

Group No. 3

Motion No. 11 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 7.

Motion No. 12 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 8.

Motion No. 25 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 25.

Motion No. 27 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 26.

Motion No. 28 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 27.

Motion No. 29 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 28.

Motion No. 30 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta -- South Richmond), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 29, be amended by replacing line 25 on page 20 with the following:

    "branches in any part of Canada and employ agents in any part of Canada."

Motion No. 31 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta -- South Richmond), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 30.

Motion No. 32 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 31.

Motion No. 33 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta -- South Richmond), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 33.

Motion No. 34 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 34, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 37 on page 21 with the following:

    "or a province."

Motion No. 36 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 38, be amended by replacing lines 26 to 29 on page 22 with the following:

    "pealed by this Act."

Debate continued on the motions in Group No. 3.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A Message was received from the Senate informing this House that the Senate has passed Bill S-18, An Act respecting the Alliance of Manufacturers & Exporters Canada, to which the concurrence of the House is desired.

Pursuant to Standing Order 135(2), the Bill was deemed to have been read the first time and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-66, An Act to amend the National Housing Act and the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act and to make a consequential amendment to another Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No. 3 (Motions Nos. 11, 12, 25, 27 to 34 and 36).

Debate continued on the motions in Group No. 3.

The question was put on Motions Nos. 11 and 12 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

The question was put on Motion No. 25 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division, which also applies to Motions Nos. 27 to 29, was deferred.

The question was put on Motions Nos. 30 to 34 and 36 and, pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded divisions were deferred.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions.

Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded divisions were further deferred until later this day, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Axworthy (Minister of Foreign Affairs), -- That Bill C-68, An Act in respect of criminal justice for young persons and to amend and repeal other Acts, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights;

And of the amendment of Ms. Dalphond-Guiral (Laval Centre), seconded by Mr. Canuel (Matapédia -- Matane), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word "That" and substituting the following:

    "C-68, An Act in respect of criminal justice for young persons and to amend and repeal other Acts, be not now read a second time but that the Order be discharged, the Bill withdrawn and the subject-matter thereof referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights."

The debate continued.


At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Order made Monday, May 3, 1999, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mrs. Wayne (Saint John), seconded by Mr. Matthews (Burin -- St. George's), -- That this House calls on the government to develop a new national shipbuilding policy to support the revitalization of the Canadian shipbuilding industry by maintaining and advancing the degree of excellence and the technologies for which Canada is historically renowned, given that Canada has the longest coastline of any nation in the world and that historically Canadians are among the finest shipbuilders in the world.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Matthews (Burin -- St. George's), seconded by Mr. Harvey (Chicoutimi), -- That the motion be amended by adding after the word "develop" the following:

    "immediately"

The question was put on the amendement and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 391)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Matthews -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 115

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 147

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

Pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the House proceeded to the putting of the question on the main motion of Mrs. Wayne (Saint John), seconded by Mr. Matthews (Burin -- St. George's).

The question was put on the main motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 392)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Matthews -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 115

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Milliken -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 146

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-71, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 16, 1999, as reported by the Standing Committee on Finance with amendments.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Loubier (Saint-Hyacinthe -- Bagot), seconded by Mr. Dubé (Lévis-et Chutes-de-la-Chaudière), -- That Bill C-71, in Clause 4, be amended by deleting lines 13 to 43 on page 3 and lines 1 to 39 on page 4.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 393)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Brien -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Rocheleau -- St-Hilaire -- Turp -- Venne -- 40

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 221

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Mifflin (Minister of Veterans Affairs), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 394)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 146

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Matthews -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 115

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded divisions at report stage of Bill C-66, An Act to amend the National Housing Act and the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act and to make a consequential amendment to another Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations without amendment.

Group No. 1

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 3, be amended by deleting lines 8 to 12 on page 4.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 395)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gilmour -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Hanger -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Mark -- McNally -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 41

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Cardin -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 220

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 2 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 1 and 2 on page 5 with the following:

      "8. (1) The Corporation may insure housing loans."

The question was put on Motion No. 2 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 396)
YEAS: 41, NAYS: 220. (See list under Division No. 395)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 4 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 8 and 9 on page 7 with the following:

    "the obligation."

The question was put on Motion No. 4 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 397)
YEAS: 41, NAYS: 220. (See list under Division No. 395)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 5 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 10 on page 7 with the following:

      "18. (1) The Corporation may, subject to regulations made under section 465 of the Insurance Companies Act which regulations shall apply to the Corporation with such modifications as are necessary, obtain reinsur-"

The question was put on Motion No. 5 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 398)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Venne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 81

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 180

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 6 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 21 to 23 on page 7 with the following:

    "this Part by Her agent the Corporation. Any amount so paid constitutesa dividend paid by the Corporation to the Government of Canada."

The question was put on Motion No. 6 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 399)
YEAS: 41, NAYS: 220. (See list under Division No. 395)

Group No. 2

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 7 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 13 on page 9 with the following:

      "(3) The Corporation may, subject to the approval of the Governor in Council, determine the"

The question was put on Motion No. 7 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 400)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hart -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 96

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jennings -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 165

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 9, 13, 15, 18, 19, 21 and 23 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 8 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 17 on page 10 with the following:

    "person who is a builder of rental housing projects on reserves, as defined in the Indian Act or that is a non-profit corporation or a cooperative association is unable to obtain a loan described in"

The question was put on Motion No. 8 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 401)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bellehumeur -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Brien -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Earle -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Guay -- Guimond -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- McDonough -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Nystrom -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- St-Hilaire -- Stoffer -- Turp -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 55

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Cummins -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duhamel -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Gilmour -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Hanger -- Harb -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 206

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 10 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 4, be amended by adding after line 44 on page 10 the following:

      "(3) The Corporation may only make a loan, contribution or forgive an amount under subsection (1) for rental housing projects being built or owned by a non-profit corporation or cooperative association or for housing projects on reserves, as defined in the Indian Act."

The question was put on Motion No. 10 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 402)
YEAS: 55, NAYS: 206. (See list under Division No. 401)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 14 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre),

-- That Bill C-66, in Clause 11, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 36 on page 13 with the following:

      "(2) Paragraph 75(2)(a) of the Act is replaced by the following:
    (a) pursuant to any of paragraphs (1)(a) to (f) or paragraph (1)(h) or (j), except with the approval of the Minister; or"

The question was put on Motion No. 14 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 403)
YEAS: 55, NAYS: 206. (See list under Division No. 401)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 16 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre),

-- That Bill C-66, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing lines 3 to 7 on page 15 with the following:

    "and develop land for a low-rental housing project or to construct or acquire and operate a low-rental housing"

The question was put on Motion No. 16 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 404)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Brison -- Casey -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Earle -- Harvey -- Herron -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Laliberte -- Lill -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Matthews -- McDonough -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- 34

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Cardin -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harb -- Hart -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 227

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 17 of Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), seconded by Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau -- Mirabel), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing lines 13 to 15 on page 15 with the following:

      "79. The Corporation may, pursuant to agreements made between the Government of Canada and the government of any province, undertake jointly with the government of the province or any agency thereof or with any public housing"

The question was put on Motion No. 17 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 405)
YEAS: 40, NAYS: 221. (See list under Division No. 393)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 20 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre),

-- That Bill C-66, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing line 13 on page 17 with the following:

    "projects owned by public housing agencies, as defined in section 78, non-profit corporations or cooperative associations, and may forgive amounts owing on"

The question was put on Motion No. 20 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 406)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Blaikie -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- Dockrill -- Earle -- Laliberte -- Lill -- Mancini -- McDonough -- Nystrom -- Proctor -- Riis -- Robinson -- Stoffer -- Wasylycia-Leis -- 15

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Asselin -- Augustine -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Borotsik -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Canuel -- Caplan -- Cardin -- Carroll -- Casey -- Casson -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Doyle -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Harb -- Hart -- Harvard -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jaffer -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jones -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Konrad -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lebel -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Marchi -- Mark -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McNally -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Muise -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Perron -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Plamondon -- Power -- Pratt -- Price -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Solberg -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Torsney -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wayne -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 246

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 22 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre),

-- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 21.

The question was put on Motion No. 22 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 407)
YEAS: 55, NAYS: 206. (See list under Division No. 401)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 24 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 24, be amended by deleting lines 16 to 18 on page 19.

The question was put on Motion No. 24 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 408)
YEAS: 41, NAYS: 220. (See list under Division No. 395)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 35 of Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), seconded by Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau -- Mirabel), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 34, be amended by adding after line 37 on page 21 the following:

      "(3) The Corporation may not exercise any of its powers or functions under this section within the territorial limits of a province without having first obtained the agreement of the government of the province."

The question was put on Motion No. 35 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 409)
YEAS: 40, NAYS: 221. (See list under Division No. 393)

Group No. 3

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 11 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 7.

The question was put on Motion No. 11 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 410)
YEAS: 96, NAYS: 165. (See list under Division No. 400)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 12 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 8.

The question was put on Motion No. 12 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 411)
YEAS: 96, NAYS: 165. (See list under Division No. 400)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 25 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 25.

The question was put on Motion No. 25 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 412)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Blaikie -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desjarlais -- Desrochers -- Dockrill -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Lill -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Mancini -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Matthews -- McDonough -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Muise -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Riis -- Robinson -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Stoffer -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 115

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 146

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

Accordingly, Motions Nos. 27 to 29 were also negatived on the same division.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 30 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta -- South Richmond), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 29, be amended by replacing line 25 on page 20 with the following:

    "branches in any part of Canada and employ agents in any part of Canada."

The question was put on Motion No. 30 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 413)
YEAS: 41, NAYS: 220. (See list under Division No. 395)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 31 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta -- South Richmond), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 30.

The question was put on Motion No. 31 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 414)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Abbott -- Alarie -- Asselin -- Bachand --  (Richmond -- Arthabaska) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bergeron -- Bernier --  (Bonaventure -- Gaspé -- Îles-de-la-Madeleine -- Pabok) -- Bernier --  (Tobique -- Mactaquac) -- Bigras -- Borotsik -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Breitkreuz --  (Yorkton -- Melville) -- Brien -- Brison -- Canuel -- Cardin -- Casey -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Desrochers -- Doyle -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dubé --  (Madawaska -- Restigouche) -- Duceppe -- Dumas -- Duncan -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Gilmour -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Guay -- Guimond -- Hanger -- Hart -- Harvey -- Herron -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Jaffer -- Johnston -- Jones -- Keddy --  (South Shore) -- Kenney --  (Calgary Southeast) -- Kerpan -- Konrad -- Lalonde -- Laurin -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacKay --  (Pictou -- Antigonish -- Guysborough) -- Marceau -- Marchand -- Mark -- Matthews -- McNally -- Ménard -- Mercier -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Muise -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Perron -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Plamondon -- Power -- Price -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Rocheleau -- Schmidt -- Solberg -- St-Hilaire -- Stinson -- St-Jacques -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Thompson --  (Wild Rose) -- Turp -- Venne -- Wayne -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 100

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Alcock -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blaikie -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonin -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Bulte -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Cauchon -- Chamberlain -- Chan -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Saint-Maurice) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Collenette -- Comuzzi -- Copps -- Cullen -- Davies -- Desjarlais -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dockrill -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Finlay -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grose -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas -- Charlottenburgh) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lastewka -- Lavigne -- Lee -- Leung -- Lill -- Limoges --  (Windsor -- St. Clair) -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Mancini -- Manley -- Marchi -- Marleau -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McTeague -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (Labrador) -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Pettigrew -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Richardson -- Riis -- Robillard -- Robinson -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Serré -- Shepherd -- St. Denis -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Julien -- Stoffer -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Volpe -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 161

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Adams -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Cannis -- Folco -- Fournier -- Sauvageau -- Tremblay --  (Lac-Saint-Jean) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 32 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 31.

The question was put on Motion No. 32 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 415)
YEAS: 55, NAYS: 206. (See list under Division No. 401)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 33 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Cummins (Delta -- South Richmond), -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 33.

The question was put on Motion No. 33 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 416)
YEAS: 96, NAYS: 165. (See list under Division No. 400)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 34 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 34, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 37 on page 21 with the following:

    "or a province."

The question was put on Motion No. 34 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 417)
YEAS: 15, NAYS: 246. (See list under Division No. 406)

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 36 of Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Vautour (Beauséjour -- Petitcodiac), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 38, be amended by replacing lines 26 to 29 on page 22 with the following:

    "pealed by this Act."

The question was put on Motion No. 36 and it was negatived on the following division:

(Division No. 418)
YEAS: 96, NAYS: 165. (See list under Division No. 400)

Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), seconded by Mr. Boudria (Leader of the Government in the House of Commons), moved, -- That the Bill be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

(Division No. 419)
YEAS: 146, NAYS: 115. (See list under Division No. 394)

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 6:36 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(7), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage of Bill C-454, An Act to provide for the recognition of the Canadian Horse as the national horse of Canada.

Mr. Calder (Dufferin -- Peel -- Wellington -- Grey), seconded by Mr. Bryden (Wentworth -- Burlington), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 131(1), a petition for a Private Bill was filed as follows:

-- by Mr. Godfrey (Don Valley West), from the Canadian Manufacturers' Association.

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:34 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:45 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).