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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 218

Thursday, April 29, 1999

2:00 p.m.



PRAYERS

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

A message was received from the Senate informing this House that the Senate had passed the following Bill to which the concurrence of this House is desired:

    Bill S-22, An Act authorizing the United States to preclear travellers and goods in Canada for entry into the United States for the purposes of customs, immigration, public health, food inspection and plant and animal health.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That Bill S-22, An Act authorizing the United States to preclear travellers and goods in Canada for entry into the United States for the purposes of customs, immigration, public health, food inspection and plant and animal health, received earlier this day from the Senate, be deemed read a first time and placed on the Order Paper for consideration at the next sitting of the House.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Bélanger (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Canadian Heritage) laid upon the Table, -- Orders in Council approving certain appointments made by the Governor General in Council, pursuant to Standing Order 110(1), as follows:

-- P.C. 1999-610 and P.C. 1999-611. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-2J. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Agriculture and Agri-Food)

-- P.C. 1999-609. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-14EE. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)

-- P.C. 1999-607 and P.C. 1999-608. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-7F. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- P.C. 1999-590 and P.C. 1999-591. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-10O. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans)

-- P.C. 1999-592, P.C. 1999-670 and P.C. 1999-671. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-8Y. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade)

-- P.C. 1999-606. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-16CC. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Human Resources Development and the Status of Persons with Disabilities)

-- P.C. 1999-616. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-22Y. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

-- P.C. 1999-603, P.C. 1999-604 and P.C. 1999-605. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-6X. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- P.C. 1999-593 and P.C. 1999-594. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-5S. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs)

-- P.C. 1999-596, P.C. 1999-597, P.C. 1999-598, P.C. 1999-599, P.C. 1999-600, P.C. 1999-601, P.C. 1999-602 and P.C. 1999-617. -- Sessional Paper No. 8540-361-24GG. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(6), referred to the Standing Committee on Transport)


Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Bélanger (Secretary to the Minister of Canadian Heritage) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- No. 361-2200 concerning the fishing industry. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-13D;

-- Nos. 361-2227, 361-2234, 361-2272 and 361-2283 concerning human rights in Indonesia. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-98N;

-- No. 361-2244 concerning abortion. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-60H;

-- No. 361-2249 concerning the Port of Churchill. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-83B;

-- Nos. 361-2278 and 361-2279 concerning the Young Offenders Act.

-- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-45Z;

-- Nos. 361-2280 and 361-2281 concerning marriage. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-80BB.

Presenting Reports from Committees

Ms. Catterall (Ottawa West -- Nepean), from the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented the 73rd Report of the Committee (Leaking of committee reports). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-161.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 45, 46, 48 to 51, 61, 63 and 64) was tabled.


Mr. Bevilacqua (Vaughan -- King -- Aurora), from the Standing Committee on Finance, presented the 16th Report of the Committee (Bill C-71, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 16, 1999, with amendments). -- Sessional Paper No. 8510-361-162.

A copy of the relevant Minutes of Proceedings (Meetings Nos. 175, 176, 178 and 179) was tabled.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), seconded by Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), Bill C-504, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (prohibited sexual acts), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), seconded by Mr. Hart (Okanagan -- Coquihalla), Bill C-505, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (child adoption expenses), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), seconded by Mr. Hart (Okanagan -- Coquihalla), moved, -- That the 70th Report of the Standing Committee on Procedure and House Affairs, presented on Tuesday, April 22, 1999, be concurred in.

Debate arose thereon.

Mr. Kilger (Stormont -- Dundas), seconded by Mr. Cullen (Etobicoke North), moved, -- That the House do now proceed to the Orders of the Day.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-66, An Act to amend the National Housing Act and the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act and to make a consequential amendment to another Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No. 1 (Motions Nos. 1, 2 and 4 to 6).

Group No. 1

Motion No. 1 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 3, be amended by deleting lines 8 to 12 on page 4.

Motion No. 2 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 1 and 2 on page 5 with the following:

      ``8. (1) The Corporation may insure housing loans.''

Motion No. 4 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 8 and 9 on page 7 with the following:

    ``the obligation.''

Motion No. 5 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing line 10 on page 7 with the following:

      ``18. (1) The Corporation may, subject to regulations made under section 465 of the Insurance Companies Act which regulations shall apply to the Corporation with such modifications as are necessary, obtain reinsur-''

Motion No. 6 of Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Lowther (Calgary Centre), -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 3, be amended by replacing lines 21 to 23 on page 7 with the following:

    ``this Part by Her agent the Corporation. Any amount so paid constitutesa dividend paid by the Corporation to the Government of Canada.''

Debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

ROYAL ASSENT

The Speaker informed the House that the Honourable the Deputy Governor General will proceed to the Senate today at 4:30 p.m. for the purpose of giving the Royal Assent to certain Bills.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-66, An Act to amend the National Housing Act and the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act and to make a consequential amendment to another Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations without amendment;

And of the motions in Group No. 1 (Motions Nos. 1, 2, 4 to 6).

Debate continued on the motions in Group No. 1.

The question was put on Motions Nos. 1, 2 and 4 to 6, and pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(8), the recorded division was deferred.

ROYAL ASSENT

A message was received from the Honourable Peter deC. Cory, Puisne Judge of the Supreme Court of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy Governor General, desiring the immediate attendance of the House in the Senate.

Accordingly, the Speaker, with the House, proceeded to the Senate.

The Commons returned to the Chamber.

Whereupon, the Speaker reported that when the Commons had been in the Senate, the Honourable the Deputy Governor General was pleased to give, in Her Majesty's name, the Royal Assent to the following Bills:

    Bill C-43, An Act to establish the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency and to amend and repeal other Acts as a consequence -- Chapter No. 17;
    Bill S-25, An Act respecting the Certified General Accountants Association of Canada.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration at report stage of Bill C-66, An Act to amend the National Housing Act and the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation Act and to make a consequential amendment to another Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations without amendment.

Group No. 2

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), moved Motion No. 7, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 13 on page 9 with the following:

      ``(3) The Corporation may, subject to the approval of the Governor in Council, determine the''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), moved Motion No. 8, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 17 on page 10 with the following:

    ``person who is a builder of rental housing projects on reserves, as defined in the Indian Act or that is a non-profit corporation or a cooperative association is unable to obtain a loan described in''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), moved Motion No. 9, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 4, be amended by replacing line 28 on page 10 with the following:

      ``(2) The Corporation may, subject to the approval of the Governor in Council, determine the''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Mr. Mayfield (Cariboo -- Chilcotin), moved Motion No. 10, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 4, be amended by adding after line 44 on page 10 the following:

      ``(3) The Corporation may only make a loan, contribution or forgive an amount under subsection (1) for rental housing projects being built or owned by a non-profit corporation or cooperative association or for housing projects on reserves, as defined in the Indian Act.''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved Motion No. 13, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 9, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 13 with the following:

      ``(2) The Corporation may, subject to the approval of the Governor in Council, determine the''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved Motion No. 14, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 11, be amended by replacing lines 31 to 36 on page 13 with the following:

    ``(2) Paragraph 75(2)(a) of the Act is replaced by the following:
    (a) pursuant to any of paragraphs (1)(a) to (f) or paragraph (1)(h) or (j), except with the approval of the Minister; or''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved Motion No. 15, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 12, be amended by replacing line 20 on page 14 with the following:

      ``(2) The Corporation may, subject to the approval of the Governor in Council, determine the''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved Motion No. 16, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing lines 3 to 7 on page 15 with the following:

    ``and develop land for a low-rental housing project or to construct or acquire and operate a low-rental housing''

Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), seconded by Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau -- Mirabel), moved Motion No. 17, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing lines 13 to 15 on page 15 with the following:

      ``79. The Corporation may, pursuant to agreements made between the Government of Canada and the government of any province, undertake jointly with the government of the province or any agency thereof or with any public housing''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved Motion No. 18, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 13, be amended by replacing line 35 on page 15 with the following:

      ``(2) The Corporation may, subject to the approval of the Governor in Council, determine the''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved Motion No. 19, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 16, be amended by replacing line 28 on page 16 with the following:

      ``(4) The Corporation may, subject to the approval of the Governor in Council, determine the''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved Motion No. 20, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing line 13 on page 17 with the following:

    ``projects owned by public housing agencies, as defined in section 78, non-profit corporations or cooperative associations, and may forgive amounts owing on''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved Motion No. 21, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 20, be amended by replacing line 15 on page 17 with the following:

      ``(2) The Corporation may, subject to the approval of the Governor in Council, determine the''

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved Motion No. 22, -- That Bill C-66 be amended by deleting Clause 21.

Mrs. Dockrill (Bras D'Or -- Cape Breton), seconded by Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), moved Motion No. 23, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 23, be amended by replacing line 5 on page 18 with the following:

      ``99.2 The Corporation may, subject to the approval of the Governor in Council, determine the''

Mr. Schmidt (Kelowna), seconded by Mr. Williams (St. Albert), moved Motion No. 24, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 24, be amended by deleting lines 16 to 18 on page 19.

Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), seconded by Mr. Dumas (Argenteuil -- Papineau -- Mirabel), moved Motion No. 35, -- That Bill C-66, in Clause 34, be amended by adding after line 37 on page 21 the following:

      ``(3) The Corporation may not exercise any of its powers or functions under this section within the territorial limits of a province without having first obtained the agreement of the government of the province.''

Debate arose on the motions in Group No. 2 (Motions Nos. 7 to 10, 13 to 24 and 35).

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

Mr. Power (St. John's West), seconded by Mr. Price (Compton -- Stanstead), moved, -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should become actively involved in the Voisey Bay nickel project, specifically to speed up the settling of native land claims and to expedite the completion of all environmental studies. (Private Members' Business M-194)

Debate arose thereon.

Pursuant to Standing Order 96(1), the Order was dropped from the Order Paper.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by the Speaker -- Minutes of Proceedings of the Board of of Internal Economy of the House of Commons for March 23, 1999. -- Sessional Paper No. 8527-361-47.

-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Reports of the Bank of Canada for the fiscal year ended December 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-684B. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Ms. Robillard (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) -- Report concerning permits issued by the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration for the year 1998, pursuant to the Immigration Act, R. S. 1985, c. I-2, sbs. 37(7). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 361-158A. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Citizenship and Immigration)

PETITIONS FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, a petition certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions was filed as follows:

-- by Mrs. Stewart (Northumberland), concerning children's rights (No. 361-2335).

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:20 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).