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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 152

Monday, November 16, 1998

11:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

At 11:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 30(6), the House proceeded to the consideration of Private Members' Business.

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should bring in legislation making the tax deduction for contributions to charitable organizations no less than the tax deduction for contributions to political parties. (Private Members' Business M-318)

The debate continued.

MOTIONS

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That if a recorded division is requested on Motion M-318, it be deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

PRIVATE MEMBERS' BUSINESS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River). (Private Members' Business M-318)

The debate continued.

The question was put on the motion and, pursuant to Order made earlier today, a recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

INTERRUPTION

At 11:53 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 12:00 noon, the sitting resumed.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration at report stage of Bill C-42, An Act to amend the Tobacco Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Health with amendments.

Pursuant to Standing Order 76.1(5), the Speaker selected for debate the following motion:

Motion No. 1.

Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), seconded by Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest), moved Motion No. 1, -- That Bill C-42, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 27 and 28 on page 1 with the following:

    ``peared on the facility on June 3, 1998.''

Debate arose on Motion No. 1.

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.


The House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Parks)), -- That Bill C-48, An Act respecting marine conservation areas, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage;

And of the amendment of Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), seconded by Mr. McNally (Dewdney -- Alouette), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

    ``this House declines to give second reading to Bill C-48, An Act respecting marine conservation areas, because the Bill fails not only to strike a proper balance between preservation of ``biodiversity'' and sustainable development, but takes no account of future sustainable development in designated marine conservation areas.''

The debate continued.

The question was put on the amendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(2), Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Prime Minister) laid upon the Table, -- Government responses, pursuant to Standing Order 36(8), to the following petitions:

-- Nos. 361-0876, 361-0881, 361-0943, 361-0944, 361-0945, 361-0946, 361-0947, 361-0948 and 361-0949 concerning pornography. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-49D;

-- No. 361-0930 concerning the Canadian Wheat Board. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-48B;

-- Nos. 361-1296 and 361-1297 concerning the economy. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-94;

-- No. 361-1298 concerning the Canada Pension Plan. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-5R;

-- Nos. 361-1301 and 361-1455 concerning human rights in Indonesia. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-95;

-- No. 361-1319 concerning immigration. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-51G;

-- Nos. 361-1323, 361-1340, 361-1393 and 361-1394 concerning the Divorce Act. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-34A;

-- Nos. 361-1359 and 361-1364 concerning nuclear weapons. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-46J;

-- No. 361-1363 concerning the highway system. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-11M;

-- Nos. 361-1388 and 361-1419 concerning the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-64C;

-- Nos. 361-1390, 361-1391 and 361-1392 concerning prostitution. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-89A;

-- Nos. 361-1395, 361-1398, 361-1400, 361-1401, 361-1402, 361-1403, 361-1404, 361-1405, 361-1406, 361-1407, 361-1408, 361-1417, 361-1418, 361-1421, 361-1422, 361-1425, 361-1426, 361-1427, 361-1428, 361-1429, 361-1432 and 361-1434 concerning marriage. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-80C;

-- Nos. 361-1399, 361-1409, 361-1414, 361-1415, 361-1416, 361-1420, 361-1430 and 361-1435 concerning gun control. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-67K;

-- No. 361-1453 concerning police and firefighters' death benefits. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-14J;

-- No. 361-1456 concerning children's rights. -- Sessional Paper No. 8545-361-18I.

Presenting Petitions

Pursuant to Standing Order 36, petitions certified correct by the Clerk of Petitions were presented as follows:

-- by Mr. Bailey (Souris -- Moose Mountain), one concerning marriage (No. 361-1698);

-- by Mr. Wappel (Scarborough Southwest), six concerning marriage (Nos. 361-1699 to 361-1704);

-- by Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), one concerning the income tax system (No. 361-1705);

-- by Mr. Adams (Peterborough), one concerning veterans' affairs (No. 361-1706) and one concerning impaired driving (No. 361-1707).

Questions on Order Paper

Mr. Adams (Parliamentary Secretary to the Leader of the Government in the House of Commons) presented the answer to question Q-136 on the Order Paper.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Scott (Solicitor General of Canada), -- That Bill C-49, An Act providing for the ratification and the bringing into effect of the Framework Agreement on First Nation Land Management, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development;

And of the amendment of Mr. Konrad (Prince Albert), seconded by Mr. Bailey (Souris -- Moose Mountain), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

    ``Bill C-49, An Act providing for the ratification and the bringing into effect of the Framework Agreement on First Nation Land Management, be not now read a second time but that it be read a second time this day six months hence.''

The question was put on the amendment and, pursuant to Standing Order 45, the recorded division was deferred until later today, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.


The Order was read for the second reading and reference to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development of Bill C-56, An Act respecting an agreement with the Norway House Cree Nation for the settlement of matters arising from the flooding of land, and respecting the establishment of certain reserves in the province of Manitoba.

Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice) for Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Duhamel (Secretary of State (Western Economic Diversification)), moved, -- That the Bill be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

Debate arose thereon.


At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. McLellan (Minister of Justice), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Parks)), -- That the amendments made by the Senate to C-37, An Act to amend the Judges Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, be now read a second time and concurred in.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 258)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- de Savoye -- Debien -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guimond -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Massé -- Matthews -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 156

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Davies -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hardy -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Laliberte -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Strahl -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 47

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Alcock -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bergeron -- Bonin -- Brien -- Bulte -- Cardin -- Chan -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dumas -- Finlay -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McTeague -- Perron -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Ms. Beaumier (Brampton West -- Mississauga), seconded by Mr. Peric (Cambridge), -- That Bill C-208, An Act to amend the Access to Information Act, be now read a third time and do pass.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 259)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Adams -- Anders -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Bailey -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Benoit -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Brown -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Cadman -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Casson -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Epp -- Finestone -- Folco -- Fontana -- Forseth -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goldring -- Goodale -- Gouk -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guarnieri -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Johnston -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Manning -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Meredith -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Morrison -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Penson -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Ramsay -- Redman -- Reed -- Reynolds -- Richardson -- Ritz -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Sekora -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Julien -- Strahl -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Wilfert -- Williams -- Wood -- 203

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- 0

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Alcock -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bergeron -- Bonin -- Brien -- Bulte -- Cardin -- Chan -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dumas -- Finlay -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McTeague -- Perron -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire

Accordingly, the Bill was read the third time and passed.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the motion of Mr. Strahl (Fraser Valley), seconded by Mr. Hill (Prince George -- Peace River), -- That, in the opinion of this House, the government should bring in legislation making the tax deduction for contributions to charitable organizations no less than the tax deduction for contributions to political parties. (Private Members' Business M-318)

The question was put on the motion and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 260)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bigras -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Duceppe -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Iftody -- Johnston -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 72

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 130

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Alcock -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bergeron -- Bonin -- Brien -- Bulte -- Cardin -- Chan -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dumas -- Finlay -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McTeague -- Perron -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division at the report stage of Bill C-42, An Act to amend the Tobacco Act, as reported by the Standing Committee on Health with amendments.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on Motion No. 1 of Ms. Wasylycia-Leis (Winnipeg North Centre), seconded by Mr. Thompson (New Brunswick Southwest), -- That Bill C-42, in Clause 2, be amended by replacing lines 27 and 28 on page 1 with the following:

    ``peared on the facility on June 3, 1998.''

The question was put on Motion No. 1 and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 261)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bailey -- Bellehumeur -- Benoit -- Bigras -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Crête -- Cummins -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- Duceppe -- Earle -- Epp -- Forseth -- Gagnon -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Guimond -- Hardy -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lebel -- Loubier -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Marchand -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- McDonough -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Nystrom -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Proctor -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Rocheleau -- Sauvageau -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Solomon -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Venne -- Wasylycia-Leis -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 71

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Cullen -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duhamel -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gallaway -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Harb -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Lastewka -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marleau -- Massé -- McCormick -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rock -- Saada -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Wappel -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 132

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Alcock -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bergeron -- Bonin -- Brien -- Bulte -- Cardin -- Chan -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dumas -- Finlay -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McTeague -- Perron -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire

Mr. Rock (Minister of Health), seconded by Mr. Gagliano (Minister of Public Works and Government Services), moved, -- That Bill C-42, An Act to amend the Tobacco Act, be concurred in at report stage.

The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

YEAS: 156, NAYS: 47. (See list under Division No. 258)

Accordingly, the Bill was concurred in at report stage and ordered for a third reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage), seconded by Mr. Mitchell (Secretary of State (Parks)),

-- That Bill C-48, An Act respecting marine conservation areas, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment Mr. Mark (Dauphin -- Swan River), seconded by Mr. McNally (Dewdney -- Alouette), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

    ``this House declines to give second reading to Bill C-48, An Act respecting marine conservation areas, because the Bill fails not only to strike a proper balance between preservation of ``biodiversity'' and sustainable development, but takes no account of future sustainable development in designated marine conservation areas.''

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:



(Division--Vote No 262)

YEAS-POUR

Members--Députés

-- Ablonczy -- Anders -- Bailey -- Benoit -- Breitkreuz --  (Yellowhead) -- Cadman -- Casson -- Chatters -- Cummins -- Epp -- Forseth -- Goldring -- Gouk -- Grewal -- Grey --  (Edmonton North) -- Hill --  (Macleod) -- Hill --  (Prince George -- Peace River) -- Hilstrom -- Hoeppner -- Johnston -- Lowther -- Lunn -- Manning -- Matthews -- Mayfield -- Meredith -- Morrison -- Obhrai -- Penson -- Ramsay -- Reynolds -- Ritz -- Schmidt -- Scott --  (Skeena) -- Solberg -- Strahl -- Thompson --  (New Brunswick Southwest) -- White --  (Langley -- Abbotsford) -- Williams -- 39

NAYS-CONTRE

Members--Députés

-- Adams -- Anderson -- Assad -- Assadourian -- Augustine -- Baker -- Bakopanos -- Barnes -- Beaumier -- Bélair -- Bélanger -- Bellehumeur -- Bellemare -- Bennett -- Bertrand -- Bevilacqua -- Bigras -- Blondin-Andrew -- Bonwick -- Boudria -- Bradshaw -- Brown -- Bryden -- Byrne -- Caccia -- Calder -- Cannis -- Caplan -- Carroll -- Catterall -- Chamberlain -- Charbonneau -- Chrétien --  (Frontenac -- Mégantic) -- Clouthier -- Coderre -- Cohen -- Collenette -- Copps -- Crête -- Cullen -- Dalphond-Guiral -- Davies -- de Savoye -- Debien -- DeVillers -- Dhaliwal -- Dion -- Discepola -- Dromisky -- Drouin -- Duceppe -- Duhamel -- Earle -- Easter -- Eggleton -- Finestone -- Folco -- Fontana -- Fry -- Gagliano -- Gagnon -- Gallaway -- Gauthier -- Girard-Bujold -- Godfrey -- Goodale -- Graham -- Gray --  (Windsor West) -- Guarnieri -- Guimond -- Harb -- Hardy -- Harvard -- Hubbard -- Ianno -- Iftody -- Jackson -- Jennings -- Jordan -- Karetak-Lindell -- Karygiannis -- Keyes -- Kilger --  (Stormont -- Dundas) -- Kilgour --  (Edmonton Southeast) -- Knutson -- Kraft Sloan -- Laliberte -- Lalonde -- Lastewka -- Lebel -- Lee -- Lincoln -- Longfield -- Loubier -- MacAulay -- Mahoney -- Malhi -- Maloney -- Manley -- Marchand -- Marleau -- Martin --  (Winnipeg Centre) -- Massé -- McCormick -- McDonough -- McGuire -- McKay --  (Scarborough East) -- McLellan --  (Edmonton West) -- McWhinney -- Mifflin -- Mills --  (Broadview -- Greenwood) -- Minna -- Mitchell -- Murray -- Myers -- Nault -- Normand -- Nystrom -- O'Brien --  (London -- Fanshawe) -- O'Reilly -- Pagtakhan -- Paradis -- Parrish -- Patry -- Peric -- Peterson -- Phinney -- Picard --  (Drummond) -- Pickard --  (Chatham -- Kent Essex) -- Pillitteri -- Pratt -- Proctor -- Proud -- Provenzano -- Redman -- Reed -- Richardson -- Robillard -- Rocheleau -- Rock -- Saada -- Sauvageau -- Scott --  (Fredericton) -- Sekora -- Solomon -- Speller -- St. Denis -- Stewart --  (Brant) -- St-Julien -- Szabo -- Telegdi -- Thibeault -- Torsney -- Tremblay --  (Rimouski -- Mitis) -- Turp -- Ur -- Valeri -- Vanclief -- Venne -- Wappel -- Wasylycia-Leis -- Whelan -- Wilfert -- Wood -- 164

Paired Members--Députés Pairés

-- Alarie -- Alcock -- Asselin -- Axworthy --  (Winnipeg South Centre) -- Bachand --  (Saint-Jean) -- Bergeron -- Bonin -- Brien -- Bulte -- Cardin -- Chan -- Desrochers -- Dubé --  (Lévis-et-Chutes-de-la-Chaudière) -- Dumas -- Finlay -- Girard-Bujold -- Godin --  (Châteauguay) -- Laurin -- Lavigne -- Lefebvre -- Leung -- Marchi -- Martin --  (LaSalle -- Émard) -- McTeague -- Perron -- Serré -- Shepherd -- Steckle -- Stewart --  (Northumberland) -- St-Hilaire


Pursuant to Standing Order 45, the House resumed consideration of the motion of Mrs. Stewart (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development), seconded by Mr. Scott (Solicitor General of Canada), -- That Bill C-49, An Act providing for the ratification and the bringing into effect of the Framework Agreement on First Nation Land Management, be now read a second time and referred to the Standing Committee on Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development.

The House proceeded to the taking of the deferred recorded division on the amendment of Mr. Konrad (Prince Albert), seconded by Mr. Bailey (Souris -- Moose Mountain), -- That the motion be amended by deleting all the words after the word ``That'' and substituting the following:

    ``Bill C-49, An Act providing for the ratification and the bringing into effect of the Framework Agreement on First Nation Land Management, be not now read a second time but that it be read a second time this day six months hence.''

The question was put on the amendment and it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS: 39, NAYS: 164. (See list under Division No. 262)

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Annual Report of VIA Rail Canada Inc. on the application of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-637. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Annual Report of the Canada Ports Corporation on the application of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 361-638. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Annual Report of the St. John's Port Corporation on the application of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-639. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Annual Report of the Saint John Port Corporation on the application of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-640. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Annual Report of the Port of Quebec Corporation on the application of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-641. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Annual Report of the Vancouver Port Corporation on the application of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-642. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Annual Report of the Port of Montreal on the application of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-643. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Annual Report of the Prince Rupert Port Corporation on the application of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-644. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. Collenette (Minister of Transport) -- Annual Report of the Halifax Port Corporation on the application of the Alternative Fuels Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-645. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development)

-- by Mr. MacAulay (Minister of Labour) -- Annual Report of the Merchant Seamen Compensation Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R. S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-850. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance) -- Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal entitled ``Requests for Tariff Relief by Australian Outback Collection (Canada) Ltd. regarding certain woven fabrics of cotton'', dated October 30, 1998, pursuant to the Canada-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, S. C. 1988, c. 65, s. 54. -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-572L. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Finance)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 7:29 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question ``That this House do now adjourn'' was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 7:41 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).