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HOUSE OF COMMONS OF CANADA
36th PARLIAMENT, 1st SESSION


JOURNALS

No. 014

Thursday, October 9, 1997

10:00 a.m.



PRAYERS

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presenting Reports from Inter-parliamentary Delegations

Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Assadourian (Brampton Centre) presented the Report of the Canadian Group of the Inter-Parliamentary Union respecting its participation at the the Specialized Inter-Parliamentary Conference on "Towards Partnership between Men and Women in Politics", held in New Delhi, India, from February 14 to 18, 1997. -- Sessional Paper No. 8565-361-60.


Pursuant to Standing Order 34(1), Mr. Assadourian (Brampton Centre) presented the Report of the Canadian Group of the Inter-Parliamentary Union respecting its participation at the 97th Inter-Parliamentary Conference, held in Seoul, Republic of Korea, from April 9 to 15, 1997.

-- Sessional Paper No. 8565-361-60A.

Introduction of Government Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Peterson (Secretary of State (International Financial Institutions)) for Mr. Martin (Minister of Finance), seconded by Mr. Massé (President of the Treasury Board), Bill C-10, An Act to implement a convention between Canada and Sweden, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Lithuania, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Kazakhstan, a convention between Canada and the Republic of Iceland and a convention between Canada and the Kingdom of Denmark for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income and to amend the Canada-Netherlands Income Tax Convention Act, 1986 and the Canada-United States Tax Convention Act, 1984, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Introduction of Private Members' Bills

Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca), seconded by Mr. Gilmour (Nanaimo -- Alberni), Bill C-242, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (violent crimes), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Martin (Esquimalt -- Juan de Fuca), seconded by Mr. Gilmour (Nanaimo -- Alberni), Bill C-243, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (protection of child before birth), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), seconded by Mr. Finlay (Oxford), Bill C-244, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act and the Canada Pension Plan (transfer of income to spouse), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Finlay (Oxford), seconded by Mr. Grose (Oshawa), Bill C-245, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (penalties for sexual offences involving children), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Mr. Szabo (Mississauga South), seconded by Mr. Telegdi (Kitchener -- Waterloo), Bill C-246, An Act respecting the provision of compensation to public safety officers who lost their lives while on duty, was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.


Pursuant to Standing Orders 68(2) and 69(1), on motion of Ms. Picard (Drummond), seconded by Ms. Gagnon (Québec), Bill C-247, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (genetic manipulation), was introduced, read the first time, ordered to be printed and ordered for a second reading at the next sitting of the House.

Motions

By unanimous consent, it was resolved, --

That, in the opinion of this House, the government should:

    (a) implement a national real time database linking all health care facilities involved in transplantation and transplantable tissue procurement, and listing all potential organ transplant recipients and available transplantable tissue;
    (b) implement a national mandated choice strategy for tissue donation through a mechanism such as the Federal Income Tax Return or the Census;
    (c) remove all financial disincentives that presently exist for health care facilities involved in transplantable tissue procurement; and
    (*id) bring in legislation in order to protect the rights and wishes of those who, upon declaration of brain death diagnosis, have previously consented to donate their organs. (Notice of Motion M-222)

By unanimous consent, it was ordered, -- That, at the conclusion of the present debate on the Opposition Motion, all questions necessary to dispose of this motion be deemed put and a recorded division be deemed demanded and deferred until Tuesday, October 21, 1997, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The Order was read for the consideration of the Business of Supply.

Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), moved, -- That this House condemns the attitude of the Government, which refuses to introduce in- depth reform of the legislation on the financing of federal political parties even though the existing legislation allows for a wide range of abuses.

Debate arose thereon.

Ms. Guay (Laurentides), seconded by Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve), moved the following amendment, -- That the motion be amended by deleting the word ``in-depth'' and substituting the following therefor:

    ``complete''.

Debate arose thereon.

STATEMENTS BY MEMBERS

Pursuant to Standing Order 31, Members made statements.

ORAL QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Standing Order 30(5), the House proceeded to Oral Questions.

GOVERNMENT ORDERS

The House resumed consideration of the motion of Mr. Duceppe (Laurier -- Sainte-Marie), seconded by Mr. Laurin (Joliette), in relation to the Business of Supply;

And of the amendment of Ms. Guay (Laurentides), seconded by Mr. Ménard (Hochelaga -- Maisonneuve).

The debate continued.

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 81(16), the Speaker interrupted the proceedings.

Pursuant to Order made earlier today, the question was deemed put on the amendment, and a recorded division was deemed demanded and deferred until Tuesday, October 21, 1997, at the expiry of the time provided for Government Orders.

MESSAGES FROM THE SENATE

Messages were received from the Senate as follows:

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the names of the Honourable Senators appointed to serve on the Standing Joint Committees are as follows:

Library of Parliament

    The Honourable Senators Bolduc, Corbin, DeWare, Doyle, Gigantès, Grafstein and Robichaud (L'Acadie -- Acadia).

Scrutiny of Regulations

    The Honourable Senators Cogger, Ferretti Barth, Grimard, Hervieux-Payette, Kelly, Lewis, Mercier and Moore.

Official Languages

    The Honourable Senators Beaudoin, Gauthier, Kinsella, Losier-Cool, Rivest, Robichaud (L'Acadie -- Acadia), Robichaud (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Pépin and Simard.

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages has been authorized to examine the expenditures set out in Privy Council Vote 25 of the Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998.

-- ORDERED: That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Standing Joint Committee on the Library of Parliament has been authorized to examine the expenditures set out in Parliament Vote 10 of the Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998.

ORDERED: That the Senate do unite with the House of Commons in the appointment of a Special Joint Committee of the Senate and the House of Commons to study matters related to the proposed resolution respecting a proposed Amendment to Section 93 of the Constitution Act, 1867 concerning the Quebec school system;

That seven Members of the Senate and sixteen Members of the House of Commons be members of the Committee;

That the Members to act on behalf of the Senate on the Committee be the Honourable Senators Beaudoin, Grafstein, Lavoie-Roux, Lynch-Staunton, Pépin, Robichaud (Saint-Louis- de-Kent) and Wood;

That the Committee be directed to consult broadly and review such information as it deems appropriate with respect to this issue;

That the Committee have the power to sit during sittings and adjournments of the Senate;

That the Committee have the power to report from time to time, to send for persons, papers, and records, and to print such papers and evidence as may be ordered by the Committee;

That the Committee have the power to retain the services of expert, professional technical and clerical staff;

That the quorum of the Committee be twelve members whenever a vote, resolution or other decision is taken, so long as both Houses are represented, and that the Joint Chairpersons be authorized to hold meetings, to receive evidence and authorize the printing thereof, whenever six members are present, so long as both Houses are represented;

That the Committee be empowered to appoint, from among its members, such sub-committees as may be deemed advisable, and to delegate to such sub-committees all or any of its powers except the power to report to the Senate and the House of Commons;

That the Committee be empowered to authorize television and radio broadcasting of any or all of its proceedings;

That the Committee make its final report no later than November 7, 1997; and

That, notwithstanding usual practices, if the Senate or the House of Commons are not sitting when the final report of the Committee is completed, the report may be deposited with the Clerk of the House which is not sitting, and or the Clerks of both Houses if neither House is then sitting, and the report shall thereupon be deemed to have presented in that House, or both Houses, as the case may be.

RETURNS AND REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE HOUSE

Pursuant to Standing Order 32(1), papers deposited with the Clerk of the House were laid upon the Table as follows:

-- by Mr. Anderson (Minister of Fisheries and Oceans) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for the period 1997-98 to 2001-2002 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1997- 98 of the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-361-826. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Fisheries and Oceans)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report of the Canada Council for the Arts, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Canada Council Act, R. S. 1985, c. C-2, sbs. 21(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-80. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Broadcasting Act, R.S. 1985, c. B- 9, sbs. 39(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-86. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report of Telefilm Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Canadian Film Development Corporation Act, R.S. 1985, c. C-16, sbs. 23(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 361-91. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report of the National Capital Commission, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-181. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report of the National Film Board of Canada, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the National Film Act, R. S. 1985, c. N-8, sbs. 20(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-189. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report of the National Gallery of Canada, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-468. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report of the Canadian Museum of Nature, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-469. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report of the National Museum of Science and Technology Corporation, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-472. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Report on the financial statements of the Canadian Film Development Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Canadian Film Development Corporation Act, R.S. 1985, c. C-16, sbs. 23(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560- 361-552. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Ms. Copps (Minister of Canadian Heritage) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for the period 1997-98 to 2001-02 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1997-98 of the Canadian Museum of Civilization Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-361-858. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Canadian Heritage)

-- by Mr. Eggleton (Minister of National Defence) -- Reports of the Department of National Defence for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -- Sessional Paper No. 8561-361-637. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights)

-- by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources) -- Report of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited for the fiscal year ended March 31,1997, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1). -- Sessional Paper No. 8560-361-62. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources) -- Summary of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1996-97 of Atomic Energy of Canada Limited, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-361-824. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Natural Resources and Government Operations)

-- by Mr. Goodale (Minister of Natural Resources) -- Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1997-98 to 2001-2002 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1997-98 of the Cape Development Breton Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R. S. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -- Sessional Paper No. 8562-361-827. (Pursuant to Standing Order 32(5), permanently referred to the Standing Committee on Industry)

PROCEEDINGS ON ADJOURNMENT MOTION

At 6:30 p.m., pursuant to Standing Order 38(1), the question "That this House do now adjourn" was deemed to have been proposed.

After debate, the question was deemed to have been adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 6:48 p.m., the Speaker adjourned the House until tomorrow at 10:00 a.m., pursuant to Standing Order 24(1).